HL-on LBS (Lugia/Blastoise/Steelix)

Discussion in 'Archetypes of the Past' started by Mr_Rumpleteezer, Sep 28, 2013.

  1. Mr_Rumpleteezer

    Mr_Rumpleteezer Hovercat Mod Staff Member

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    Drew Guritsky's T32 World's list

    Pokemon - (25)
    2 Jirachi (HL)
    1 Jirachi (DX)
    2 Squirtle (RG)
    1 Wartortle (RG)
    2 Blastoise ex
    2 Pidgey (RG)
    1 Pidgeotto (RG)
    2 Pidgeot (RG)
    1 Onix
    1 Steelix ex
    1 Porygon (RG)
    1 Porygon2 (DS)
    1 Lugia ex
    1 Latias ☆
    1 Mew ex (LM)
    1 Celebi ex (POP2)
    1 Holon's Magnemite
    3 Holon's Castform

    Trainers - (27)
    3 Celio's Network
    2 Rocket's Admin.
    2 Holon Mentor
    1 Holon Adventurer
    1 Steven's Advice

    4 Holon Transciever
    3 Rare Candy
    2 Pokemon Retriever
    2 Switch
    1 Swoop! Teleporter
    1 Pow! Hand Extension

    2 Power Tree
    2 Giant Stump
    1 Island Cave

    Energy - (8)
    8 Water Energy
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  2. PP101

    PP101 The Swarm for 3 seconds then accidentally left Staff Member

    This is 2006, correct?

    First place Worlds in Juniors:

    Pokemon: 27
    2 Lugia ex UF
    3 Blastoise ex RG
    2 Wartortle RG
    3 Squirtle RG
    1 Steelix ex UF
    1 Onix TR
    1 Latias* DX
    2 Pidgeot RG
    1 Pidgeotto RG
    2 Pidgey RG
    4 Plusle DX
    2 Holon's Electrode DS
    3 Holon's Magneton DS

    Energy: 11
    11 Water

    TSS: 22
    4 Rocket's Admin.
    3 Celio's Network
    2 Steven's Advice
    2 Copycat
    1 Professor Elm's Training Method

    3 Power Tree

    4 Rare Candy
    2 Pokemon Retriever
    1 Warp Point
  3. Datwombat

    Datwombat Wannabe Failure

    I don't quite understand the use for Steelix ex in the deck as i didn't play competitively then. Can someone explain? And which Mew ex is on list 1? There's two Mew ex's.
  4. Mr_Rumpleteezer

    Mr_Rumpleteezer Hovercat Mod Staff Member

    @Datwombat

    Steelix ex could snipe for 100 damage, which could be potentially devastating.

    And the Mew ex is from Legend Maker, the one with the Versatile body.
  5. Datwombat

    Datwombat Wannabe Failure

    Ah that make alot more sense now, thank you. I really love just looking at these lists and seeing exactly how extremely different they are from lists of decks today. It's near mind-boggling how much the game has changed.
  6. kazambolt

    kazambolt Meh.

    List in OP is from Drew Guritsky.

    Also, Steelix was good because sniping for 100 took out your opponent's Pidgeot which set them back a lot.
  7. Chaostamer

    Chaostamer Active Member Staff Member

    ---Pokémon (24)---
    2 Jirachi HL
    1 Jirachi DX
    2 Squirtle RG
    1 Wartortle RG
    2 Blastoise ex
    2 Pidgey RG
    1 Pidgeotto RG
    2 Pidgeot RG
    1 Lugia ex
    1 Onix UF
    1 Steelix ex
    1 Latias ☆
    1 Houndour UF
    1 Houndoom UF
    1 Mew ex LM
    1 Celebi ex POP 2
    2 Holon's Castform
    1 Holon's Electrode


    ---Trainer (29)---
    3 Holon Mentor
    2 Rocket's Admin
    2 Professor Elm's Training Method
    1 Celio's Network
    1 Steven's Advice
    1 Holon Adventurer
    1 Holon Scientist
    1 Holon Farmer

    3 Rare Candy
    3 Holon Transceiver
    2 Warp Point
    1 Switch
    1 Swoop! Teleporter
    1 Pow! Hand Extension
    1 Vs. Seeker
    1 Pokémon Retriever

    2 Power Tree
    1 Giant Stump
    1 Space Center


    ---Energy (7)---
    7 Water Energy



    Here's the LBS list I use. It's pretty similar to one of Chris Fulop's lists. This list is intended to be very flexible and have a strong late game. The Houndoom line is great against a lot of decks which run large benches, since this deck can survive with just three benched Pokémon. It's proven to be pretty helpful since a lot of decks in this format like large benches. In particular, it completely shuts off Lunasol (either as a tech, as in some Worlds 2006 Dragtrode lists, or as a deck focus) since it allows you to stick a Space Center against them. It generally doesn't matter how long it takes to draw into the Space Center; once you get it, you gain access to Pidgeot and you can usually overpower them. It's also solid against Mewtric, since that deck often needs to fill its bench against LBS because even manually-powered Lugia ex and Steelix ex can pose a huge threat, so they need backups prepared.

    The one thing I'd like in this list is a Holon's Magnemite to help me miss fewer early Make a Wish moves with Jirachi HL, but the list functions very well for me as is.
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  8. PokemonGeek

    PokemonGeek Derp, Derp, Derpity Derp

    Junior 2006 1st was hiroki yanos wannit. Steelix was what I call the birdbeater
  9. Mr_Rumpleteezer

    Mr_Rumpleteezer Hovercat Mod Staff Member

    I like that list, @Chaostamer . The Houndoom seems neat just because this deck functionally shuts down without Pidgeot :/
  10. Willyazaa

    Willyazaa New Member

    @Chaostamer , It's the versatile Mew ex, right?Did you use that so you wouldn't lose your Lugia or Steelix when you attacked with them?
  11. Chaostamer

    Chaostamer Active Member Staff Member

    That's one use for Mew, but also, Mew can use any of your opponent's attacks since you can power it up with multicolored energy fairly easily. It can basically do anything. It's too versatile not to use in this sort of deck.
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  12. Professor_N

    Professor_N Well-Known Member

    Can someone tell me why there isn't any Fire or Fighting Energy? Does something turn your Waters into Rainbows? (Too lazy to look up every card lol)
  13. KPiplup

    KPiplup An Imposter Staff Member

    Holon's Castform/Electrode
  14. Professor_N

    Professor_N Well-Known Member

    My gosh those cards look so broken. At least there was some sort of turn 1 trainer/supporter rule back then right? If we had this deck with the 2012-2013 rules... oh man (with BTS for T1 Blastoise ex of course).
  15. PP101

    PP101 The Swarm for 3 seconds then accidentally left Staff Member

    Now I have a ruling question with these guys. The text says that you have to return an energy to your hand in order to attach it. Does attaching the Castform or Electrode count as an attachment? Or could you, for example, attach a Water that turn then immediately replace it with Castform or Electrode?
  16. KPiplup

    KPiplup An Imposter Staff Member

    It counts as your attachment. The idea is to use Stoise ex to attach extra energy, then use Castform as your attachment.
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  17. Mr_Rumpleteezer

    Mr_Rumpleteezer Hovercat Mod Staff Member

    Nailed it. The neat thing is that you can use one energy twice with ease.

    1. Energy Rain Water
    2. Attach Castform/remove Water
    3. Energy Rain same Water
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  18. Professor_N

    Professor_N Well-Known Member

    Do you have to detach an Energy from a Pokemon in order to attach Castform/Electrode, or can you attach it to a clean Pokemon?
  19. SheepInSpace

    SheepInSpace Italian PokéDad

    You can only attach Castform/Electrode to a Pokémon that already has an energy attached to it.
  20. KPiplup

    KPiplup An Imposter Staff Member

    Meanwhile Holon's Voltorb and Magnemite have no such requirements. Reading the card closely usually solves issues like this, though I can understand the wording being a little unusual compared to what we've got today.
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