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  • swift

    Nice report. Last match was too bad… I have a Garchomp/Luxray list too. Mind if we trade list?

    • PokePockets

      Sure. I’ll get it to you sometime later today

  • swift

    Nice report. Last match was too bad… I have a Garchomp/Luxray list too. Mind if we trade list?

    • PokePockets

      Sure. I’ll get it to you sometime later today

  • http://twitter.com/poteet24 Graham Poteet

    Nice report. That is a very fun deck to play

  • Graham Poteet

    Nice report. That is a very fun deck to play

  • J-Wittz

    Nice report, man! I know it feels rotten not getting to top cut but you have to look at it this way– none of your losses were you being brutally overpowered– the deck has a solid matchup on a lot of things and a lot of 50-50 matchups. Keep practicing with the deck until you know all its ins and outs and you’ll be a pretty big force to recon with!

  • J-Wittz

    Nice report, man! I know it feels rotten not getting to top cut but you have to look at it this way– none of your losses were you being brutally overpowered– the deck has a solid matchup on a lot of things and a lot of 50-50 matchups. Keep practicing with the deck until you know all its ins and outs and you’ll be a pretty big force to recon with!

  • Dave Hueglin

    Reading this BR report, plus others on the site, certainly confirms that there is a wide variety of decks being played that are capable of getting into the top 4.

  • Dave Hueglin

    Reading this BR report, plus others on the site, certainly confirms that there is a wide variety of decks being played that are capable of getting into the top 4.

  • Power Swinh

    Luxray gl Honchkrow g is what one my battle roads I find it to be a very quick but effective deck good choice my friend

  • Power Swinh

    Luxray gl Honchkrow g is what one my battle roads I find it to be a very quick but effective deck good choice my friend

  • Eeeon

    haha! i am also coming up with a deck similar to this…but i have some questions about BR tournies…i know that you aren’t supposed to use any pokemon from any of the sets before diamond and pearl but does that go same with trainer cards? energies? and special energy cards?

    • Power Swing

      No cards from any of the sets before diamond and pearl can be used
      only reprints potion, switch, etc.

      • Eeeon

        oh but what do you mean potion, switch, etc? what other cards? so you have to look at the little symbol now and any cards with symbols from sets before diamond and pearl you can’t use? even energies?

      • J-Wittz

        take a trip down to this site: http://pokegym.net/tower/

        Any card posted in that middle section is currently legal in a tournament. Any trainer posted here that has been released in the past can still be played. Also, all basic energy are always legal.

        Most special energy cards legal now that were previously printed include:
        -warp energy
        -cyclone energy
        -special dark energy
        -special metal energy

        Most reprinted trainer/supporter cards include:
        - pluspower
        - switch
        - warp point
        - potion
        - underground expedition
        - most different kinds of fossils
        - pokeball
        - great ball
        - super scoop up
        - energy search
        - etc.

        I know how you feel, it’s a shame that you can’t play a lot of your really old cards, but it’s done to ensure the most powerful cards don’t remain in the format forever and it encourages the purchase of new cards and more balanced gameplay. Pokemon isn’t one of the cheapest hobbies, but it is one of the most fun!

      • Power Swing

        if we were allowed to use old energies I would still be playing GG
        it’s a shame they cut EX sets :/ sigh

  • Eeeon

    haha! i am also coming up with a deck similar to this…but i have some questions about BR tournies…i know that you aren’t supposed to use any pokemon from any of the sets before diamond and pearl but does that go same with trainer cards? energies? and special energy cards?

    • Power Swing

      No cards from any of the sets before diamond and pearl can be used
      only reprints potion, switch, etc.

      • Eeeon

        oh but what do you mean potion, switch, etc? what other cards? so you have to look at the little symbol now and any cards with symbols from sets before diamond and pearl you can’t use? even energies?

      • J-Wittz

        take a trip down to this site: http://pokegym.net/tower/

        Any card posted in that middle section is currently legal in a tournament. Any trainer posted here that has been released in the past can still be played. Also, all basic energy are always legal.

        Most special energy cards legal now that were previously printed include:
        -warp energy
        -cyclone energy
        -special dark energy
        -special metal energy

        Most reprinted trainer/supporter cards include:
        - pluspower
        - switch
        - warp point
        - potion
        - underground expedition
        - most different kinds of fossils
        - pokeball
        - great ball
        - super scoop up
        - energy search
        - etc.

        I know how you feel, it’s a shame that you can’t play a lot of your really old cards, but it’s done to ensure the most powerful cards don’t remain in the format forever and it encourages the purchase of new cards and more balanced gameplay. Pokemon isn’t one of the cheapest hobbies, but it is one of the most fun!

      • Power Swing

        if we were allowed to use old energies I would still be playing GG
        it’s a shame they cut EX sets :/ sigh

  • http://www.adamcapriola.com/ Adam Capriola

    Nice report!

    I would like to see the list though, I think I might make that a requirement for future tournament reports. It would make it the article more interesting to read (easier to follow along with your match descriptions) plus you could get feedback from everyone. :)

    What does everyone think about that? I know some people do not like to share lists, but I feel it would exponentially add to the quality of the article.

    • J-Wittz

      I’ve seen this kind of thing argued both ways, and I respect each side. There are two kinds of great reporters: A and B.

      Guy A doesn’t share his deck list. It’s not because he thinks he holds in his hands the most powerful deck in the format and he doesn’t want his secret to be unlocked, though. No, this kind of guy still writes a fantastic article describing the decks he faced, key moves he made, and the different expectations/experiences he encountered. He’s a big fan of deckbuilding as a personal art in Pokemon, and therefore wants to continue this art by encouraging the development of individual lists and the discovery of a personal feel for a deck. I argue this because not only is it tiring seeing people scourge pokegym and the likes for a list they can copy card for card and seeing several clone decks in the same tournament, but I’ve found that you WILL DO WORSE with a deck you haven’t tested and perfected yourself. The truest form of testing is building a deck from scratch and determining what works for you and what doesn’t. Tourneywriter A can still leave an informative article by highlighting a strategy in the beginning of their report.

      Guy B is a community guy. He puts bigtime trust into the pokemon online fanbase and encourages posting lists in order to exchange feedback. He does this for growth of decks and ideas directly over the internet, and also because he’s proud of the list he’s made. Othertimes he’s done poorly and shares his list to ask where he went wrong. He’s a large believer in the concept that playing skill is a much larger factor in who wins a match than which decklist is played. His articles can be very helpful to newcomers because they can understand card for card what is in the deck why– or they can ask questions to determine this as well.

      I like both players and understand both of their motives. I’m more of a player type A, myself. I feel like it’s too tempting to just copy paste a deck to a tournament. I’ve even won a couple this same way, but other times I’ve just totally bombed it because I hadn’t practiced enough. A perfect example is my very first tournament last year, a City Championships. I made my own rogue blissey darkrai weaville deck that ran smoothly, absorbed a lot of hits, healed, and did a decent amount of damage. I really loved that deck. However, when I read online that Dusknoir and Gengar variants were winning most CC’s, I immediately copy pasted an exact list and took it to the tourney. Needless to say, I wasn’t as experienced and went 1 and 3 before dropping. The worst part is, after the tournament I played with my BWD deck against others and won every match I played! It was a huge bummer.

      So, I think that a decklist shouldn’t be required, but a strategy section before the report should be. Also, to those who read the articles, don’t be afraid to test your own lists, too! Right now, I’m working with uses for Regirock while trying very hard not to look online for Silvestro’s list. It’s fun that way! : D

    • http://www.adamcapriola.com/ Adam Capriola

      You make some good points J-dub. What are other peoples thoughts?

      • Eeeon

        i think it could be the choice of the writer/reporter cause there are people that “steal” the deck and post on another site hidden by the original creator and call it there own…but for reports like these i would say that it be better cause sometimes you don’t know what they were talking about…but i thibk it’s the writers choice if he wants to reveal his deck

    • swift

      Well, I think it’s sensible to share deck lists. Although for some people who are very… egoistic I might say… They will feel that their list only belongs to himself/herself, maybe at the most they will share among their team members if they belong to a playing group. I mean so what if you got beaten up by your own deck? I would have humbly accepted that fact because in most mirror matches, even if the decks are off by a few cards, it will put the player’s playing skills, experience and decision making process to the test.

  • http://www.sixprizes.com Adam

    Nice report!

    I would like to see the list though, I think I might make that a requirement for future tournament reports. It would make it the article more interesting to read (easier to follow along with your match descriptions) plus you could get feedback from everyone. :)

    What does everyone think about that? I know some people do not like to share lists, but I feel it would exponentially add to the quality of the article.

    • J-Wittz

      I’ve seen this kind of thing argued both ways, and I respect each side. There are two kinds of great reporters: A and B.

      Guy A doesn’t share his deck list. It’s not because he thinks he holds in his hands the most powerful deck in the format and he doesn’t want his secret to be unlocked, though. No, this kind of guy still writes a fantastic article describing the decks he faced, key moves he made, and the different expectations/experiences he encountered. He’s a big fan of deckbuilding as a personal art in Pokemon, and therefore wants to continue this art by encouraging the development of individual lists and the discovery of a personal feel for a deck. I argue this because not only is it tiring seeing people scourge pokegym and the likes for a list they can copy card for card and seeing several clone decks in the same tournament, but I’ve found that you WILL DO WORSE with a deck you haven’t tested and perfected yourself. The truest form of testing is building a deck from scratch and determining what works for you and what doesn’t. Tourneywriter A can still leave an informative article by highlighting a strategy in the beginning of their report.

      Guy B is a community guy. He puts bigtime trust into the pokemon online fanbase and encourages posting lists in order to exchange feedback. He does this for growth of decks and ideas directly over the internet, and also because he’s proud of the list he’s made. Othertimes he’s done poorly and shares his list to ask where he went wrong. He’s a large believer in the concept that playing skill is a much larger factor in who wins a match than which decklist is played. His articles can be very helpful to newcomers because they can understand card for card what is in the deck why– or they can ask questions to determine this as well.

      I like both players and understand both of their motives. I’m more of a player type A, myself. I feel like it’s too tempting to just copy paste a deck to a tournament. I’ve even won a couple this same way, but other times I’ve just totally bombed it because I hadn’t practiced enough. A perfect example is my very first tournament last year, a City Championships. I made my own rogue blissey darkrai weaville deck that ran smoothly, absorbed a lot of hits, healed, and did a decent amount of damage. I really loved that deck. However, when I read online that Dusknoir and Gengar variants were winning most CC’s, I immediately copy pasted an exact list and took it to the tourney. Needless to say, I wasn’t as experienced and went 1 and 3 before dropping. The worst part is, after the tournament I played with my BWD deck against others and won every match I played! It was a huge bummer.

      So, I think that a decklist shouldn’t be required, but a strategy section before the report should be. Also, to those who read the articles, don’t be afraid to test your own lists, too! Right now, I’m working with uses for Regirock while trying very hard not to look online for Silvestro’s list. It’s fun that way! : D

    • http://www.sixprizes.com Adam

      You make some good points J-dub. What are other peoples thoughts?

      • Eeeon

        i think it could be the choice of the writer/reporter cause there are people that “steal” the deck and post on another site hidden by the original creator and call it there own…but for reports like these i would say that it be better cause sometimes you don’t know what they were talking about…but i thibk it’s the writers choice if he wants to reveal his deck

    • swift

      Well, I think it’s sensible to share deck lists. Although for some people who are very… egoistic I might say… They will feel that their list only belongs to himself/herself, maybe at the most they will share among their team members if they belong to a playing group. I mean so what if you got beaten up by your own deck? I would have humbly accepted that fact because in most mirror matches, even if the decks are off by a few cards, it will put the player’s playing skills, experience and decision making process to the test.

  • quaziko

    I noticed that you said in your first game against Kingdra you decided to claw swipe when your Garchomp C already had 2 damage counters on it. That seems like a really risky move, considering there’s a great chance he could’ve rare candied or BTS’d into a Kingdra to KO it. I don’t know why you would even consider hitting a crobat G for 30 anyway, since Luxray or Garchomp OHKO’s it even if it’s undamaged. Just sayin’.

    Anyway, there are a lot of tough matches out there, and the ones you did lose weren’t blow-outs. Besides, this is only Battle Roads :)

  • quaziko

    I noticed that you said in your first game against Kingdra you decided to claw swipe when your Garchomp C already had 2 damage counters on it. That seems like a really risky move, considering there’s a great chance he could’ve rare candied or BTS’d into a Kingdra to KO it. I don’t know why you would even consider hitting a crobat G for 30 anyway, since Luxray or Garchomp OHKO’s it even if it’s undamaged. Just sayin’.

    Anyway, there are a lot of tough matches out there, and the ones you did lose weren’t blow-outs. Besides, this is only Battle Roads :)

  • Pablo

    Very nice report! Was Drifblim FB helpful at all?

    • Power Swing

      Drifblim FB would be a lot better if its attack only costed 2 energy
      but I still like it

      • PokePockets

        Sadly I cannot say if Drifblim helped because I never really set it up. It was simply there in case I played against something that was heavily weak to psychic.

  • Pablo

    Very nice report! Was Drifblim FB helpful at all?

    • Power Swing

      Drifblim FB would be a lot better if its attack only costed 2 energy
      but I still like it

      • PokePockets

        Sadly I cannot say if Drifblim helped because I never really set it up. It was simply there in case I played against something that was heavily weak to psychic.

  • PokePockets

    I’m still trying to figure out my exact list (since I tore the deck apart and decided to build something else) as soon as I find out i’ll e-mail the few who wanted it and post it here

    • Power Swing

      do you have your registration form

      • PokePockets

        sadly no. I was going to attempt to get it from my PTO yesterday but I never got the time to

  • PokePockets

    I’m still trying to figure out my exact list (since I tore the deck apart and decided to build something else) as soon as I find out i’ll e-mail the few who wanted it and post it here

    • Power Swing

      do you have your registration form

      • PokePockets

        sadly no. I was going to attempt to get it from my PTO yesterday but I never got the time to

  • http://twitter.com/poteet24 Graham Poteet

    Drifblim tilts me so much, because he continues to look at me and tell me that he has a purpose, but I can’t find it. His weakness and resistance are both pretty good, weak to nothing popular and resistant to flygon (extremely popular) and can potentially have 120 hp late game (great for a basic) WHY can I not fit him in anything?

    I blame the fact he needs a second attack.

    Maybe if his first attack cost PC and did 30 (all the game text) giving a crobat drop and snipe to a pixie… then a second attack for late game? Or maybe a damage porter? haha no.

    But seriously, if you play Drifblim any more let me know how it runs, I’m very intrigued by this card, but like I said it always gets cut for other things.

    • Power Swing

      It seems to look at me to
      i mean the only cards it has weakness to are honchkrow g and t-tar but neither are popular

  • Graham Poteet

    Drifblim tilts me so much, because he continues to look at me and tell me that he has a purpose, but I can’t find it. His weakness and resistance are both pretty good, weak to nothing popular and resistant to flygon (extremely popular) and can potentially have 120 hp late game (great for a basic) WHY can I not fit him in anything?

    I blame the fact he needs a second attack.

    Maybe if his first attack cost PC and did 30 (all the game text) giving a crobat drop and snipe to a pixie… then a second attack for late game? Or maybe a damage porter? haha no.

    But seriously, if you play Drifblim any more let me know how it runs, I’m very intrigued by this card, but like I said it always gets cut for other things.

    • Power Swing

      It seems to look at me to
      i mean the only cards it has weakness to are honchkrow g and t-tar but neither are popular

  • Power Swing

    I have tested Drifblim out in my Honchkrow/Luxray deck and it works out great at one shoting pixes and uxie lv.x ormachamp lv.x with help from crobat. Other than that it really doesn’t help a whole lot but it could be decent i guews

  • Power Swing

    I have tested Drifblim out in my Honchkrow/Luxray deck and it works out great at one shoting pixes and uxie lv.x ormachamp lv.x with help from crobat. Other than that it really doesn’t help a whole lot but it could be decent i guews

  • http://twitter.com/poteet24 Graham Poteet

    Yeah, it seems like it helps out the most against Flychamp, which SP may need a little help with, but I just don’t know if Drifblim could ever tilt it in your favor without using a Bronzong G, and having to drop a E-Gain, stuff I really don’t want to have dedicated to Drifblim…

    • http://www.adamcapriola.com/ Adam Capriola

      Yeah I think just the fact that it needs 3 energies is the problem, it’s quite an investment for a somewhat limited attack.

  • Graham Poteet

    Yeah, it seems like it helps out the most against Flychamp, which SP may need a little help with, but I just don’t know if Drifblim could ever tilt it in your favor without using a Bronzong G, and having to drop a E-Gain, stuff I really don’t want to have dedicated to Drifblim…

    • http://www.sixprizes.com Adam

      Yeah I think just the fact that it needs 3 energies is the problem, it’s quite an investment for a somewhat limited attack.

  • Power Swing

    Ya it works best on flychamp i’ll give you a situation where it worked for me
    Late game against flychamp i have 2 prizes left to draw my opponent has 1. I galactic switch an energy over to drifblim, energy gain, psychic energy, retreat luxray and pull up drifblim my opponent has an active flygon fully powerd and a machamp lv.x on his bench. I tjen one shot it with the help of crobat g. My opponent then power swings for 100 but pump up and resistencen prevents the ko and next turn i then ohko a benched uxie to win

    Another thing that lets this card down is retreat
    It can be pulled up for a lock or an easy ko by to many cards in this format

    • Amt

      “Late game against flychamp i have 2 prizes left to draw my opponent has 1. I galactic switch an energy over to drifblim, energy gain, psychic energy, retreat luxray and pull up drifblim my opponent has an active flygon fully powerd and a machamp lv.x on his bench. I tjen one shot it with the help of crobat g.”

      Machamp X’s Poke-Body only works while it is Active.

      • Power Swing

        oops, well I just completely jacked my friend. Anyway back to the card. Like i said earlier it would be a lot better if its attack only toook PC but it doesn’t. High retreat is a major letdown hear and i also only feel safe pulling this card out late game. Ya sure it is semi-usefull against Flychamp but there are better counters for that(Toxitank or Uxie Lv.x for machamp and Ditto for flygon)
        that is just my opinion though
        tell me if you guys feel I should keep it in my list

  • Power Swing

    Ya it works best on flychamp i’ll give you a situation where it worked for me
    Late game against flychamp i have 2 prizes left to draw my opponent has 1. I galactic switch an energy over to drifblim, energy gain, psychic energy, retreat luxray and pull up drifblim my opponent has an active flygon fully powerd and a machamp lv.x on his bench. I tjen one shot it with the help of crobat g. My opponent then power swings for 100 but pump up and resistencen prevents the ko and next turn i then ohko a benched uxie to win

    Another thing that lets this card down is retreat
    It can be pulled up for a lock or an easy ko by to many cards in this format

    • Amt

      “Late game against flychamp i have 2 prizes left to draw my opponent has 1. I galactic switch an energy over to drifblim, energy gain, psychic energy, retreat luxray and pull up drifblim my opponent has an active flygon fully powerd and a machamp lv.x on his bench. I tjen one shot it with the help of crobat g.”

      Machamp X’s Poke-Body only works while it is Active.

      • Power Swing

        oops, well I just completely jacked my friend. Anyway back to the card. Like i said earlier it would be a lot better if its attack only toook PC but it doesn’t. High retreat is a major letdown hear and i also only feel safe pulling this card out late game. Ya sure it is semi-usefull against Flychamp but there are better counters for that(Toxitank or Uxie Lv.x for machamp and Ditto for flygon)
        that is just my opinion though
        tell me if you guys feel I should keep it in my list

  • http://twitter.com/kwisdumb kwisdumb

    Nice report! Too bad you didn’t make the cut. =[

  • http://twitter.com/kwisdumb kwisdumb

    Nice report! Too bad you didn’t make the cut. =[

  • coheed1337

    Little late here but in my opinion deck lists should never be shared except to playtesting partners. The problem is that you can tell so much about somebody’s playstyle from their list. If you consistently see that anothers players lists are extremely teched out you can probably assume that their lists arent going to run as well as the standard version of the decks they are using. Knowing this when you play them you could be more willing to make a risk play by killing something early instead of focusing on your setup because you know they will have a hard time coming back from a kill. It happens all the time, mainly with my playtesting partners. I know what their lists generally look like so I can assume what is in their current list, even if I havent seen it before. Another example is switching power. I know some people who go extremely heavy on the warp points so they can always have one when they need one. Knowing this I am forced to always play like they have one which means they just lost a huge surprise factor.

  • coheed1337

    Little late here but in my opinion deck lists should never be shared except to playtesting partners. The problem is that you can tell so much about somebody’s playstyle from their list. If you consistently see that anothers players lists are extremely teched out you can probably assume that their lists arent going to run as well as the standard version of the decks they are using. Knowing this when you play them you could be more willing to make a risk play by killing something early instead of focusing on your setup because you know they will have a hard time coming back from a kill. It happens all the time, mainly with my playtesting partners. I know what their lists generally look like so I can assume what is in their current list, even if I havent seen it before. Another example is switching power. I know some people who go extremely heavy on the warp points so they can always have one when they need one. Knowing this I am forced to always play like they have one which means they just lost a huge surprise factor.

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