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  • Anonymous

    Great article thanks for giving it. This article can be beneficial because I’m hoping to get a cities trophy or something with Gyarados (I’m not going to settle for the Poliwag promo). I hope I can give you a little help on a deck you are trying to learn to play, because I’m good at a few decks myself.

    • Anonymous

      Great article!!
      I wonder what your opinion on my platform, participate in a tournament this weekend and plan to use it:

      Pokemon – 20

      4 Magikarp SF
      3 Gyarados SF
      4 Sableye SF
      2 Crobat G PL
      1 Regice LA
      1 Azelf LA
      1 Skuntank G
      2 Uxie LA
      1 Combee
      1 Unown Q MD

      T/S/S – 35

      4 Broken Time-Space
      3 Pokemon Collector
      3 Bebe’s Search
      4 Poke Turn
      4 Poké Blower +
      2 Junk Arm
      3 Super Scoop Up
      2 Expert Belt
      2 Pokemon Communication
      1 Palmer’s
      1 Luxury Ball
      2 Seeker
      2 Volkner’s
      2 Pokemon Rescue

      Energy – 5

      2 Rescue Energy
      3 Warp Energy

      Thank’s

      • Anonymous

        Have you thought about trying maybe 3 sableye and 1 smeargle or 2-2 sableye smeargle? Sableye is reliable since you imoersonate for a collector but with gengar prime out now smeargle, although not as reliable but safer. If you impersonate for collector you get regice and 2 karp and on their turn they rare candy into gengar prime, attach 1 energy and lost zone a karp. That really hurts the deck. Because every deck runs 2-3 collector now there’s a chance the if you start with smeargle you can portrait one and get the karp discarded on your first turn and lose the risk of them getting lost zoned. Its just an idea though.

      • Anonymous

        however, if you start with smeargle and they have to supporters to get you a bunch of basics your in trouble. now your smeargle is stuck active or on the bench waiting to get shadow roomed by gengar. i doubt many players will tech a gengar prime, but if you know they do. just impersonate for hand refresh until you draw into a collector

      • Anonymous

        Ya but like i said it was just an idea. But still the point was for karps not to be in your hand if they run gengar prime lol because impersonate still ends your turn and if you refresh your hand and draw into a karp there’s still that possibility. lol

      • Anonymous

        In my region there are almost no players with gengar prime for this reason perhaps that’s not a big concern, but anyway thanks for the help.

  • Anonymous

    Wouldn’t “Crushing Punch” knock out Gyarados after a “Champ Buster?” Thats a minimum of 160 damage.

    • Anonymous

      Gyarados has -20 resistance to fighting. Champ Buster would deal 80, Crushing Punch would deal 40.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001734489773 Dakota Streck

    @pikkdogs “Wouldn’t Crushing Punch knock out Gyarados after a Champ Buster? That’s a minimum of 160 damage”

    No, it wouldn’t because Gyarados has a -20 Fighting Resistance, meaning it’s only a minimum of 120 damage.

    • Anonymous

      ok thanks, that wasn’t stated in the article.

  • Anonymous

    Great article with a lot of insight on the deck. Against the Gengar/Vileplume matchup I recommend setting up 2 Gyarados hitting for 60 damage because it 2HKO’s a Gengar SF anyway and if they level up 2 Flash Bites will KO it without activating Feinting Spell.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jordandbaker Jordan Baker

    Listen if you play in an area that has a huge Gyrados metagame think about trying something like this. Tech in Miasma Valley and Skarmory FB. Miasma Valley puts 20 damage counter on magikarp when it is played to the bench. Skarmory FB does the same, if you used Silver Feather the previous turn.

    Magikarp would be dead before they could ever evolve to Gyrados. I don’t know how easy this would be to set up, but it’s worth testing out.

    Does anybody know of a pokemon with a body or power that places damage counters on pokemon played to the bench? I can’t think of anything off the top of my head, but there might be an even easier way to do this.

    • http://twitter.com/T0nu Tonu Taitto

      Gyarados players BTS and Combee can easily bypass this combo. If they can get another BTS, the Miasma Will get discarded and Magikarp only takas 20 damage. Other way to get Magikarp in play is to drop down Combee SF. Its honey item allows you to put a Basic Pokémon (Magikarp in this example) on your bench. Because of Magikarp isn’t coming from your hand, it doesn’t take any damage.

      Try Absol swarm and Metagross SV. This combo makes Magikarps HP to 10 and Absol Primes power puts 20 on it if he plays Basic on to his bench from his hand. This can still be outplayed with Combee, and makes your main attacker’s HP down to 60 (unless it’s Hit&Run deck).

    • Anonymous

      Don’t forget praying. Praying is a huge part of this stratgey since its about the only way that your opponent is never going to hit a BTS

      • http://www.facebook.com/jordandbaker Jordan Baker

        I haven’t tested this idea, I was just throwing it out there.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Martin-Garcia/676689170 Martin Garcia

        when its active, absol prime puts 2 damage counters in every basic you oponent plays, so that could work too

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christian-Hyman/1642663192 Christian Hyman

      absol prime i think while its active

    • Anonymous

      Metagross with the gravitation poke body is probably what you are looking for.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jordandbaker Jordan Baker

    Listen if you play in an area that has a huge Gyrados metagame think about trying something like this. Tech in Miasma Valley and Skarmory FB. Miasma Valley puts 20 damage counter on magikarp when it is played to the bench. Skarmory FB does the same, if you used Silver Feather the previous turn.

    Magikarp would be dead before they could ever evolve to Gyrados. I don’t know how easy this would be to set up, but it’s worth testing out.

    Does anybody know of a pokemon with a body or power that places damage counters on pokemon played to the bench? I can’t think of anything off the top of my head, but there might be an even easier way to do this.

  • Anonymous

    “Gyarados was a nearly unknown deck until it made it to the top 16 at Worlds 2009. After that, people went crazy over Gyarados, looking for the Worlds list and trying to get any information they could about it. Apart from placing second in the Seniors Division and a Regionals win, it didn’t do that great last year.”

    I try really hard to not be that guy that just stragiht up bashes articles because I know they take time to write but you did almost no fact checking here. Gyarados got Top 8 in 2009 Worlds losing only to getting donked last round of swiss by a Sabyle and Stephen Silvestro with Beedril. A match up IMO is still very close, Stephen won Game 1, and Game 2 Fabien Gariner (creator from France I believe) needed to hit one of 3 SSU to pick up a Bat for the last 10 damage and the game but in one turn missed all 3. As far as Gyarados doing “nothing” last year. Hell it got Top 8 Worlds Masters, 2nd at Worlds Seniors, 3rd at Worlds Juniors, 4th at Worlds Juniors. I would call 4 out of 12 a pretty good record.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001734489773 Dakota Streck

      Yeah, I had forgotten about those. However, what I meant was overall throughout the year, in every level of tournaments, not just high or low. compared to decks like LuxChomp, it paled in comparison

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001734489773 Dakota Streck

      Yeah, I had forgotten about those. However, what I meant was overall throughout the year, in every level of tournaments, not just high or low. compared to decks like LuxChomp, it paled in comparison

  • Anonymous

    “Gyarados was a nearly unknown deck until it made it to the top 16 at Worlds 2009. After that, people went crazy over Gyarados, looking for the Worlds list and trying to get any information they could about it. Apart from placing second in the Seniors Division and a Regionals win, it didn’t do that great last year.”

    I try really hard to not be that guy that just stragiht up bashes articles because I know they take time to write but you did almost no fact checking here. Gyarados got Top 8 in 2009 Worlds losing only to getting donked last round of swiss by a Sabyle and Stephen Silvestro with Beedril. A match up IMO is still very close, Stephen won Game 1, and Game 2 Fabien Gariner (creator from France I believe) needed to hit one of 3 SSU to pick up a Bat for the last 10 damage and the game but in one turn missed all 3. As far as Gyarados doing “nothing” last year. Hell it got Top 8 Worlds Masters, 2nd at Worlds Seniors, 3rd at Worlds Juniors, 4th at Worlds Juniors. I would call 4 out of 12 a pretty good record.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/pgmcsskater pgmcsskater

    dont forget if vilegar plays the prime all they have to do is get one knock out on a gary with the prime.. now Gyarados is hitting for only 60

  • http://www.facebook.com/TheDarkTwins Drew Guritzky

    I won a States with it. How could you leave that out? -_-

  • Anonymous

    GO Gyarados :D

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Reynolds-Canyon/100001872455876 Reynolds Canyon

    Thanks, this article will help me beat Gyarados