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  • http://www.youtube.com/user/pgmcsskater pgmcsskater

    Nice article but you forgot a big one. Mismagius SF which can do it for no energy.

  • Lamar

    I like Mismagius SF too because of how it can be used against various other decks. It can take away the pesky Bench Shields and Expert Belts from Donphan decks, as well as the Unown Q's from “hit and run” decks. It could also really hurt Porygon (promo).

    I've heard a couple of SP decks are running the water Arceus because its “Fastwave” goes through Poke-Bodies and exploits Donphan's weakness.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/pgmcsskater pgmcsskater

    when i ran LuxChomp i had a Mismagius SF and if i needed to i would get rid of my own unown g and 1 gain and the belt on mewtwo for the knock on mewtwo

  • http://www.myspace.com/michaelmasacre Michael Scot Masacre

    Very interesting ideas, thanks a bunch, maybe we will see more mewtwo counters during battle roads and nats!

  • Renfield89

    Yeah you left out the 2 biggest counters: Mismagius SF, as previously stated, and your OWN Mewtwo Lv.X (get up on prizes, as it takes a 2 turns or more to set up M2, and they are forced to break the stalemate).

  • Versilaryan

    Great article! Informative, provides a lot of options. I've used Ninetales MT before, though it didn't work too well, so I'm going to try some of the other ones and see how they work.

  • Cpeterik

    “It’s the kind of card that comic book kids love to play to pretend like they have deckbuilding skill. They fantasize about the one-in-ten games where they can actually pull off Mewtwo LV.X against a pro, and brag to their friends about how they beat someone famous in Pokemon.”

    This paragraph is ridiculous and hypocritical. If we “unskilled” players tech a Mewtwo Lv.X to improve our SP matchup, then at least we are forcing you to sacrifice consistency by adding an anti-Mewtwo tech. 1-1 Ninetails + 3 Fire energy? Yeah, in doing so you will lose all of your good matchups and not even get high enough in tables to face a decent player with a tech Mewtwo X. Granted, that isn't the best counter, and other good counters that take up less space are certainly Dialga G and Mismagius, but STILL just the fact that the “comic book kids” are forcing you to deal with Mewtwo proves that you are in the same boat as them.
    In my opinion, Mewtwo is a good play in the current meta game. Expert Belting a Mewtwo will make it harder to KO with Dragon Rush + Bat drops. It is articles like these, IMHO, that will falsely discourage and intimidate players from using Mewtwo, therefore giving the already dominating LuxChomp enough of a scare tactic where they don't even need to tech in Dialga.
    The bottom line is, if Mewtwo forces the BDIF to think twice about techs, then it is a good play.

  • Calchexas

    Aahahah, actually, Mewtwo LV.X is an advanced strategy that no comic book kid would even consider – most of those types would just run a brutally basic Lucxhomp list with no creative techs! lol. Mewtwo LV.X is a very real threat, and isn't something confined to one “social class” of player – it practically earned me an invite into the grinder, and has won me five premier tournament game wins in less than a year's time.

    Anyways, although you forgot Mismagius SF, this was still a great read. I also like how you considered the possibility of them running Mewtwo LA: although it's clearly the worse of the Mewtwos, it puts less pressure on you to run Psychic Energy in the deck, and “might” be the appropriate option in the right deck.

  • butlerforhire

    I do not read comic books. However, I have used Mewtwo lv. X to win games against very legitimate players. I am not sure where this leaves us.

  • chrataxe

    I thought that was a legit comment about comic book kids. Lord knows I don't know much about playing Pokemon, so don't get me telling you what is good and what isn't. BUT, it doesn't take an idiot to realize that running a good Mewtwo deck is very complicated. It also doesn't take an idiot to realize that any “comic book kid” can get a lucky draw and draw straight into a Mewtwo set up and, with no talent or effort (or fore thought about forcing your opponent to counter tech), beat a legit player. Also, it doesn't take an idiot to realize the difference between the two.

    So, if you aren't that “comic book kid,” then that comment wasn't meant toward you. I think that is a perfectly fine, fair statement.

  • Jason

    Yeah you are right, I forgot about Mismagius SF which I actually use in my Palkia Lock. Mewtwo LV.X is a great counter also but I do not use it because I am not a fan of comic books. But I also forgot to mention, one of the key advantages of using Kirlia is the hit-and-run, which helps if they have, e.g., an Expert Belt or Bubble Coat – you can get in two shots on Mewtwo in that manner if for some reason you cannot get the OHKO.

  • blooper785

    awsome article would you recomend running mewtwo in a flychamp deck or just keep it as it is i mean its pretty anti SP with the machamp in it alredy but just to have mewtwo as a staller would help right

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/pgmcsskater pgmcsskater

    flychamp doesnt really have the space for it bc you need a good T/S/S base to have the speed and consistency it needs

  • blooper785

    thx i was wondering because im running it fro spring roads and nationals and was wondering on any recommendations

  • blooper785

    my little bro runs Luxchomp i am wondering if i should put in the mismagius but what should i take out its just a standard luxchomp deck to shud i take out the premier balls and put mismagius in as 1-1 and one psychic energy

  • Mach

    Anyone tried Poisoning with Skuntank G and stalling for a while with the Metal Arceus?

  • blooper785

    does anyone want my Flychamp list

  • JPN-Gallade

    Ahhhh, that's a very good article there. This will greatly help to teach players how to counter the infamous Mewtwo Lv.X.

    Now the thing I really like about this article is that you showed us a lot of good Mewtwo counters, and man did I learn a lot. I never thought you could use Kirlia PT to actually counter Mewtwo. Well, that's an interesting twist. Then, there's another Mismagius that cand counter Mewtwo just as nicely as its SF counterpart, Mismagius PT. Man, that can be quite a good counter too. The ability to stop an attack for one turn can be good.

    Yep, good article all right. This will certainly help whenever one has trouble with Mewtwo. After all, Mewtwo is still a good card right now, especially when SPs are still dominant.

  • Peetzaman521069

    One that you could have mentioned is Xatu UL. If Mewtwo has all 3 energy necessary for its attack, then Xatu can 1HKO it.

  • Peetzaman521069

    One that you could have mentioned is Xatu UL. If Mewtwo has all 3 energy necessary for its attack, then Xatu can 1HKO it.

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