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Slaking: Not So Lazy Anymore

by Willy G. on January 22, 2010 at 11 AM View Comments  1,075 views

Slaking Platinum PL 16 Pokemon CardThe Platinum Slaking was largely ignored prior to its release, and for good reason. It cannot attack if it attacked last turn! This plus its Retreat Cost of 4 made it largely unplayable and incredibly slow. However, Dialga G Lv.X changes all of that.

Dialga G Lv.X gets rid of Slaking’s Poke-Body. Now, it can attack every turn for 150 damage! This makes it a much much more efficient card. However, damage done to Slaking after he uses his attack is increased by 50. This severely weakens him. However, a simple Unown G will eliminate that problem, because Unown G will “prevent all effects of ATTACKS” done to Slaking, not necessarily only the opponent’s attacks. Slaking is now dealing 150 for any 4 Energies every turn with no downside!

However, 4 Energies is still very many, especially in such a fast format. However, with the release of the next set, we will be blessed with Double Colorlesss Energy. This makes Slaking much, much faster, with the possibility of powering him up in one turn! Let’s say you have Dialga G Lv.X and Leafeon Lv.X on the Bench. Play Broken Time-Space, play Slakoth-Vigoroth-Slaking, give it Unown G, attach 2 Double Colorless Energies with Energy Forcing, and attack for 150 every turn with no downsides. This is why I believe Slaking will emerge in the metagame after the release of the next set.

Please comment if you have anything to say!

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  • Ehhh there are certain decks that don't have too much trouble doing 120 in one turn. Gyarados, Gardy/Gallade, those Fighting Pokemon you mentioned...all can do 120 without too much trouble.

    SP can't, but they can disrupt your set up and hit you on the bench or drag you active before you are able to attack.

    Poke Healer sounds good, I just don't know in game how easy they would be to get out and use effectively.
  • All you people bashing the decklist. Consider this. With an Expert Belt, Slaking reaches a tremendous 170 HP, hitting for 170 damage per turn. Not much hits for the 120 that's necessary to OHKO the Slaking after the Best Dash effect. Running 4x Healer in the deck makes Slaking even more difficult to KO. Think about it. Slaking OHKOs anything. Not Wailord. Double Colorless Energy makes the cost obtainable, and it's not like Dialga G Lv.X is a shoddy backup attacker. He can make use of DCE as well.

    Not at all a bad idea, IMO. And a Fighting-type weakness really isn't the end of the world right now. Donphan Prime will be big, yes, but that's about the only major thread. Machamp is a problem as well.
  • SMGausch
    Gman: 4 drawer, 4 healer, 4 rare candy, luxury ball etc. etc. makes a slow deck even slower if it's getting trainer locked by lets say Dialga g, Spiritomb, Gastly, etc. They are nice when the work, but can kill you other times. Healers can be great, but I'd probably choose one or the other not both.
  • Brandon
    He'll be even better when Double Colorless Energy (DCE) is released.
  • Gman
    I don't know why people keep forgetting Poke healers I mean 2 cards for 8 damage counters come on! thats imba! anyway, why not stock up on buffer piece, a 1-0-1 nidoqueen line and a couple of potions so by the time your first slaking dies the second one is good to go and can auto-kill anything your opponent tries to put out.

    P.S maybe some Poke Drawers to get the Healers, just a thought :D
  • Even without the Unown G I don't think this would be all that competitive of a deck, but it's a novel idea. Without the Unown G it just falls apart though. =[
  • SMGausch
    Even with two double colorless it takes two turns to get going, 4 dubs means only two can attack with two energy drops anything after that needs 4. I think your best bet for running this will be with the new Ninetails and Typhlosion Prime. Discard Draw energy accelerate, throw in a Queen to heal maybe, plus dubs means you could attack pretty quick and cut down on the drawback of the attack.
  • Gengar 101
    Nice idea. With Double Colorless comeing out this guy is going to be a lot faster.
  • nardd's idea is pretty cool, using Weavile and Moonlight. I think that's probably the best way to go other than using it as just a tech.
  • Robert Long
    2 turns to power up isnt bad .. just start with a simple tech and pull back when ready for ur heavy hitter

    this is a combo i would most likely look into getting. but then ive always been a fan of cheap costing heavy hitters
  • TDA
    The 1-0-1 line tech seems to be much better but cant be a surprise as you still need 2 turns to power up.
  • Wow now i have to admit i never saw this combo, it looks very interesting. I'm not sure i can say anything about the attack because i actually play a similar attack cost on my heavy hitter (Tangrowth SF) so i agree with you about remaining optimistic with the release of DCE! Nifty idea thanks for sharing it with us.
  • Soul
    Meh, Slaking sucks 4 energies is too much with all the SPs around. Also fighting weakness hurts a lot.
  • mike
    What other Pokemon would go good in a Blaziken FB Lv X deck?
    PLEASE HELP!!
  • cpeterik
    Go to the forums for off-topic stuff. This thread relates only to this article. Thanks
  • I apologize about the Unown G mistake, I saw it and thought it was wrong and should have put an editors note in the article.
  • Willy G.
    i am very sorry about the Unown G mistake too, I should have thought about it more deeply before posting that part. Thanks for pointing it out and thanks for all the positive comments! :)
  • Renfield89
    Not to be a Debbie-Downer, but shouldn't these articles be proofread for errors, like the Unown G comment, prior to being published? I think that anything to appear on the Front Page ought to be 'cream of the crop' so to speak.

    Back on topic, I tested Slaking/Dialga G/Weavile/Upper Energy at Platinum's release, and the resources it takes to get in a Lv.X just for the use of its Body in a Stage 2 deck is not worth the hassle. Only after cutting Dialga G for Nidoqueen and inserting Moonlight Stadiums and Memory Berry did we find some success. In this way, you can Dark Engage/free retreat and rotate to attack between Slakings, getting around the Body, healing with Queen, and abusing Rage.
    Even still, subpar card; won't ever be competitive.
  • Tweed
    Luxray X was in champion deck which was stage 2 deck.

    Cyclone energy and Lucians assignment could be a helpful little mechanic to rotate slakings, and the use of spiritomb is also nice in setting up multiple slakings.
  • Renfield89
    Luxray GL Lv.X has the best aggressive PokePower in Pokemon after Crobat's Flash Bite. Paired with any fast heavy hitter (i.e. Beedrill/Kingdra/Blaziken FB), you can KO any Pokemon for choose several times per game, due to its free retreat and recyclability with TGI-105 Poke Turn.

    Dialga G Lv.X has a retreat cost of 2. It has to be active to level up, and to retreat it to the bench, you require Switch, Warp Point, or Warp Energy, all of which are unsearchable outside of PokeDrawer+, of which you would need 2 copies, meaning you would need THREE cards to get it into play. Even with the Weavile SW/Moonlight strategy, its just another obstacle to set up. When are you finally going to attack? Turn 4/5?

    These two situations are very, very different.
  • cpeterik
    Maybe a dumb question, but If you used Memory Berry to use Slakoth's healing attack, "Remove all damage counters from Slakoth. Sklakoth can't attack during your next turn." would you still be able to attack next turn as Slaking because they have different names? I think not, but boy that would turn this combo into something more than just a fun idea...
  • Renfield89
    No, when using Memory Berry, you treat the text as "Remove all damage counters form this Pokemon. This Pokemon can't attack next turn."
  • cpeterik
    Cool, thanks for clearing that up Renfield.
  • Renfield89
    My pleasure =]
  • junior
    Great job but what if it faces pooka
  • SMGausch
    Great combo with dialga g, someones thinking, but still a horrible retreat cost, horrible attack cost, horrible effect to the attack, just not playable. At least the body kept you from even thinking about playing it.
  • junior
    hi do you think jimmy ballard should come out of retirement and go back to pwning people again please reply.
  • Yes, now plz stop trolling?
  • jimbo
    memorry berry would be useful with platinum vigoroth. a flygon tech would be nice for 0 energy retreat on slaking. I think this deck could be competitive
  • SMGausch
    Memory Berry sounds like relicanth bait, factor in a bts or moonlight and you are getting hit for 60+30 weakness+50 from the attacks effect=140 damage so a crobat away from a 1hko. Once one of these suckers drops how quick you gonna recover?
  • Sry, there's really no Relicanth in my area, so didn't even think about it. :C Answer to how quick will this recover: 2 turns.
    But sounds like a hard deck to get running, and a 100 HP isn't really that much... maybe Expert Belt?
  • And how are you going to attach a basic Colorless Energy to Flygon?
    Weavile + Moonlight Stadium sounds better.
    Good idea with the Memory Berry, but it'd be of more use with the PT Slakoth. A Flail and Slack Off, that removes all damage counters on Slakoth for CC, and Slakoth can't attack next turn. Gives some tanking ability, and can be used with Weavile+Moonlight by retreating next turn for a new Slaking.
  • cpeterik
    Guys- here we go...
    BUFFER PIECE. BAM!
    Attach it the turn you use "Best Dash" (what a weird name for an attack that does 150...) and next turn attacks will be reduced by 20.. Not the best, but certainly will be harder to OHKO back after the 150.
  • Woodstock
    This is a very cool idea. Surprised everyone with the Dialga G X combo (myself as well haha).

    Quality over Quantity - 6P.com.
  • ariesucks
    i think this will work more as a fun deck then a metagame deck, though it is a cool idea
  • MadSci
    very cool idea
  • cpeterik
    I've been thinking about this all day now, and it gets more intriguing. Amy deck that runs 4 DCE anyway might consider adding 1-0-1 Slaking to sit on the bench and use for important revenge KOs. Although he might be able to be in his own deck with Dialga and Weavile, it makes more sense as a tech. Does anyone else see where I'm coming from?
  • jimbo
    For energy acceleration you could use weavile sw.
    Early weavile attaches darkness to benched slaking. You could do 150+20 (weavile) + 20 (expert belt)=190 damage. and have 170 hp. just tech in nidoqueen to heal.
  • HunterJ
    great thoughts jimbo!
    keep up the good work and suggestiions
  • nardd
    Yeah, unless you can figure out a way to get around the 50 damage increase every turn, Slaking isn't going to last long after that first KO, even with 150 HP.

    MAYBE you could do a weavile/slaking thing, which helps with energy attachment and even more damage, as well as free retreat with moonlight stadium out.
  • cpeterik
    Although I must say I never thought of comboing him with Dialga G. That's kinda cool. But Unown G mistakes are almost unforgivable!!!
  • cpeterik
    I can't believe you thought Unown G could do that.........
  • TDA
    1.Unown g doesnt prvent your effects
    2.getting 2 lv.x's into play to make this powerful isnt a viable thing to do
    3.slaking will not see much play due to the above reasons.
  • MatthewR
    Q. Does Unown G's "GUARD" Poke-POWER prevent effects from attacks that the Unown G is attached to?
    A. No, the Poke-POWER only prevent effects from an opponent's attacks, not your own. Unown-G's "GUARD" Poke-POWER should say, "As long as Unown G is attached to a Pokemon, prevent all effects of attacks, excluding damage, done to that Pokemon by your opponent's Pokemon". (Feb 21, 2008 PUI Rules Team; Feb 28, 2008 Pokemon Organized Play News)
  • HunterJ
    Great Aticle!
    I love the idea of Dialga G Lv.X negating the annoying poke body!
    It sounds like it could really work!!
    The down side is the Energy Cost and 50 increased damage next turn BUT a really good card combo!
    So awesome and nice article again!
    PEACE!
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