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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XVNTS6D43ALI4GW74Q22WXNPZU Red Ados

    That’s cool. I wish that more countries in South America would have P!P so that I could play in Ecuador.

  • Anonymous

    That was a cool article. Thanks for writing it.

  • Anonymous

    Great article. It’s really nice to read something different on the front page.

    Good luck to you and the other Chilean players for the future.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C7OQD6BLJCXQBNSHNZWVWLRXHE George

    Fantastico!

    Great story! Maybe more US players will be more appreciative of the advantages we have had over the years. I hope the P!P makes a push into Chile and other countries in South and Central America. Pokemon, bring the world a little closer together. Thanks for sharing!

  • Anonymous

    From the forum posts lately, it seems Poland is in the same situation. I’m starting to wonder if that online TCG beta is aimed at these “new” Pokemon nations, and not so much at the nations with heavy P!P programs. That would certainly be something that would both surprise and delight me.

  • Anonymous

    From the forum posts lately, it seems Poland is in the same situation. I’m starting to wonder if that online TCG beta is aimed at these “new” Pokemon nations, and not so much at the nations with heavy P!P programs. That would certainly be something that would both surprise and delight me.

  • Anonymous

    hello, first, the store I.N.K. is not the same owner as “mundo_alterno. ”

    second, in-store only plays on the official rules of pokemon.

    third, Iquique Chile pokemon league is a league where we cooperate with us to build the best deck possible, therefore,
    the level of the league is very good, and only you as out of this state to come to play only photocopies of letters and
    assembling decks with cards that do not you can get. also coming with a bad attitude with players.

    Iquique Chile pokemon league is made up of people of all ages, competing in tournaments on Saturdays and Sundays.
    apart from this they can also challenge I.N.K. gym and win prizes without any conditions.

    I hope my friends dejarce not driven by comments that do not reflect the reality of the game in Iquique, Chile.

    thanks

    Francesco Pietroboni 1-ranked player INK gym

  • http://twitter.com/soujiroelric Carlos Vergara

    Hello Francesco, and thanks for your comment.

    First, thanks for that bit of information, although I do remember you as being a seller there. Maybe I got confused, or something.

    Second, we do play with official rules and that’s something I do acknowledge. However, many rumors (as the half-season rotation) have been running around, and we both know these are just rumors.

    Third, I do agree the cooperation is awesome here. I do go with proxies, but proxies are PROXIES. Complain whenever I go to a tournament with them, besides I just playtest to try and learn to play with different kinds of decks before deciding myself on a way. I don’t have as much access as you to get more cards, and I need to learn, too. And I don’t go with a bad attitude, maybe you just don’t like me? You’re entitled to your own opinion though, but I don’t like to go with a bad attitude, or to make others feel uncomfortable.

    I don’t really complain a lot against the reality of our metagame, I actually like it, and I do praise the effort made so we players can play in a competitive game. I just point out how difficult it’s to play without a legal organized play, but I hope we get it soon. I’m looking forward to it.

    If my post annoyed you in one or other way, or if you have any differences or personal issues, we can have a talk anytime. I won’t have a problem with it =)

    And lastly, I made this post to inform english speaking players about our state of the game. Just think it of this way: Let’s say you have been playing on a league for years, and legal organized plays are something so common you can’t really think of what it means to play without it – And we are the example of that. And people do appreciate the effort done so that we can just play, just check the posts here and in the forums.

    Again, thanks for your post and see you soon.

  • http://twitter.com/soujiroelric Carlos Vergara

    Ah, and another thing: Nowhere here I state anything about the quality of the metagame here. I actually have the intention to leave this for another article, after I study properly how people play and gather enough information. But I gotta tell you everyone, the quality of players and deckbuilding here is quite good.

  • Anonymous

    That’s pretty cool.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for this overview of Chile

    In the Pokemon community we can sometimes be U.S. centric, so its nice to get some info from other places.

    I’m sure this was a learning expierence for a lot of people

    I hope you guys can get going soon and have tournaments, and a nationals, so we can see you guys at worlds.

  • http://twitter.com/mosherstomper Robby Gill

    I actually played carlos via skype last night. for missing some key staples he still played very well. The deck he played was unique and alot of fun. It took me by surprise since it wasnt a meta deck at all. after we played to told me more about chile (i spelled it chili at first and he corrected me hah) and the problems with getting these staples. I really enjoyed playing amd talking with him, as well as this article. we have it pretty easy here with pre releases, websites (not having to ship over seas) healthy trade forums and leagues.

    Id really like to get some things together for these players.

    I know alot of players have stacks of extra staples (bebes, uxie,azelf, collector ect.) I think it would be really cool If some of us could donate the extra cards to these guys. Between boxes, trainer kits and league promos these cards arnt hard to find here and are pretty cheap. If anyone is willing to help please pm me. Ill be more than happy to ship off these cards.

    Ill most likely be making a thread for this soon.

    • http://twitter.com/soujiroelric Carlos Vergara

      That’s… Really considerate. I would love to talk it out, before anything, okay? =)

      • http://twitter.com/mosherstomper Robby Gill

        yea man, send me a pm or talk to me on skype

      • Anonymous

        hello. I’ll put in two languages to better comprencion.
        I know one of the owners of the store that has the pokemon league in Iquique, Chile (official link). and the truth here in the store have all the products necessary for granting letters and build good decks. We all editions for sale and pressures. that compared with other restaurants specializing in Chile are quite inexpensive.

        cards and players are many, it’s just that this person lies about the reality of the game in Chile.

        thanks

        hola. lo pondre en dos idiomas para mejor comprencion.
        sabes soy uno de los dueños de la tienda que tiene la liga pokemon en iquique chile(liga oficial) . y la verdad aca en la tienda tenemos todos los productos y cartas nescesarias para armar buenas cubiertas. tenemos de todas las ediciones a la venta y a presios. que comparados con los demas locales especializados en chile son bastante economicos.

        cartas y jugadores hay muchos, es solo que esta persona miente con respecto a la realidad del juego en chile.

        gracias

      • http://twitter.com/soujiroelric Carlos Vergara

        Francesco, read the article better, in no way I am bashing anything or lying – Or would you tell me, we do have league promos? And don’t tell me cards like Uxie or Azelf, staples in the actual metagame, are easy to get around here. Did you know people have like lots of these cards in the USA?

        Francesco, lee mejor el artículo, de ninguna manera estoy atacando a nada o mintiendo – ¿O me vas a decir que sí tenemos promos de liga? Y no me digas que cartas como Uxie y Azelf, staples en el metajuego actual, son cartas fáciles de conseguir acá. ¿Sabías que en los Estados Unidos la gente tiene hartas de esas cartas?

      • Anonymous

        yes… ligue promo yes oficial…

      • http://twitter.com/soujiroelric Carlos Vergara

        You know we don’t. Promo league cards here are cards only possible to get in booster packs, making them difficult to make. I know of someone from USA with 14 Uxies, earned just at the league. Expert Belt, Spiritomb and the like are hard to get cards. Besides, I don’t either feel your support towards me, which I believe is an incorrect attitude from your part (telling me “you can’t get these cards” shows your lack of support, too.)

        But now, I want to talk this in person too.

        Tú sabes que no. Las cartas que son promos de ligas acá las tenemos sólo como cartas que salen en sobres, lo que hace que encontrarlas sea difícil. En Estados Unidos sé de alguien que tiene como 14 Uxies, y las ganó sólo en la liga. Expert Belt, Spiritomb y cosas de ese estilo son cartas complicadas de conseguir, sin contar que tú tampoco me das ánimos para continuar, lo que me parece es una actitud incorrecta de tu parte (que me digas “no puedes conseguir esas cartas” muestra tu falta de apoyo, además.)

        Pero, quiero hablar esto en persona.

      • Anonymous

        somos tienda oficial si quieres llama o pregunta al distribuidor de chile. antes de hablar averigue. que tu no juegues ningun torneo es lo que te lleva a pensar eso.
        trenemos hasta grupo en face mas el de la tienda.

        gracias y espero no verte por aca

        We are official store if you want to call or contact the dealer in Chile. find out before you speak. that you do not play any tournament is what makes you think that.
        trains to face but the group in the store.

        thanks and hope not to see you here

      • Anonymous

        IN OVER A YEAR THAT WE PLAYING POKEMON LEAGUE, YOU NEVER COME TO PLAY TOURNAMENT, SO IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO GET LETTERS.
        THANKS

        EN EL MAS DE UN AÑO QUE LLEVAMOS JUGANDO LIGA POKEMON, NUNCA HAS VENIDO A JUGAR UN TORNEO, ASI ES IMPOSIBLE CONSEGUIR CARTAS.
        GRACIAS

      • Anonymous

        mmm si hay todas esas cartas … io tengo muchas de esas … (ejemplo: tengo 7 uxis..4 azelf..artos collectors osea no son cartas k sean dificiles …) que feo que digas eso …
        osea que no vengas a jugar es otra cosa … aca se hacen torneos todos los fines de semana …
        solo es cosa de ser una persona comunicativa … no de llegar a un lado y sublevarse y decir cosas que nada que ver …bueno ese es mi punto de vista a este comentario que lo encuentro absurdo y patetico ..
        osea haces parecer a la ciudad como un pueblo desertado …que feo eso y para colmo tu tambien vives aqui …bueno aTT. saludos
        PD: para la otra piensa en las personas a las que tambien afectas con este tipo de comentarios …

      • Anonymous

        I tried putting that in Babel Fish to see what the English version was.

        This is what I got . . .

        mmm if there is all those letters… io I have many of those… (example: I have 7 uxis..4 azelf. .artos collectors osseous are not letters k are difficult…) that ugly that you say that… osseous that you do not come to play it is another thing… breadfruit become matches all the ends week… it is only thing of being a communicative person… not to arrive at a side and to revolt and to say things that nothing that to see… good that is my point of view to this commentary that it absurd and pathetic encounter. osseous beams to seem to the city like a deserted town… that ugly that and to make matters worse your also you live here… good aTT. greetings PS: for the other it thinks about the people to whom also you affect with this type of commentaries…

        I THINK I got what you meant, but the breadfruit bit is puzzling me ;)

      • http://twitter.com/soujiroelric Carlos Vergara

        He meant that there are Uxies and Azelfs, aswell as Collectors, and that I don’t go to tourneys and that’s why I don’t see them (another newer post says that only two people here have these and that there are some kinds of rivalities going around). He also criticizes my point of view and believes I’m uprising and attacking, qualifying it as absurd and pathetic. And, he thinks I said this is a desert town.

      • Anonymous

        mmm si hay todas esas cartas … io tengo muchas de esas … (ejemplo: tengo 7 uxis..4 azelf..artos collectors osea no son cartas k sean dificiles …) que feo que digas eso …
        osea que no vengas a jugar es otra cosa … aca se hacen torneos todos los fines de semana …
        solo es cosa de ser una persona comunicativa … no de llegar a un lado y sublevarse y decir cosas que nada que ver …bueno ese es mi punto de vista a este comentario que lo encuentro absurdo y patetico ..
        osea haces parecer a la ciudad como un pueblo desertado …que feo eso y para colmo tu tambien vives aqui …bueno aTT. saludos
        PD: para la otra piensa en las personas a las que tambien afectas con este tipo de comentarios …

      • Anonymous

        mmm si hay todas esas cartas … io tengo muchas de esas … (ejemplo: tengo 7 uxis..4 azelf..artos collectors osea no son cartas k sean dificiles …) que feo que digas eso …
        osea que no vengas a jugar es otra cosa … aca se hacen torneos todos los fines de semana …
        solo es cosa de ser una persona comunicativa … no de llegar a un lado y sublevarse y decir cosas que nada que ver …bueno ese es mi punto de vista a este comentario que lo encuentro absurdo y patetico ..
        osea haces parecer a la ciudad como un pueblo desertado …que feo eso y para colmo tu tambien vives aqui …bueno aTT. saludos
        PD: para la otra piensa en las personas a las que tambien afectas con este tipo de comentarios …

      • http://twitter.com/soujiroelric Carlos Vergara

        Hello Diego.

        Collectors, I do believe they aren’t especially hard – They come in Trainer Kits. Uxie+Azelf? Oh come on, explain then why Francesco said “no you can’t get those cards”. If what you say is true, then what he said is pure lying and discouragement, which is a wrong attitude from his part. I don’t always have the time to go to play – I’ve got a job and I have to finish an RP campaign too, although I was planning to be more active once I was done.

        No one is uprising and I believe you are missing the point of the article. I do not mean to attack or offend anyone, and if that happened, I’m extremely sorry. But I think you’re taking things too, TOO personally and having an incorrect attitute towards something that doesn’t really deserve the relevance you are giving to it.

        Lastly, I said this place is IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DESERT, not a desert place. Read the article again.

        Thanks for your comment Diego. Hope to see you soon.

        Hola Diego.

        Collectors, no son especialmente difíciles – Vienen en los Trainer Kits. ¿Uxie+Azelf? Ya pues, entonces explícame por qué Francesco me dice “no puedes conseguir esas cartas”. Si lo que me dices es cierto, entonces su actitud es de completo desánimo y una mentira, una actitud completamente errónea de su parte. No siempre tengo el tiempo para ir a jugar – Tengo un trabajo y debo además terminar una campaña de rol, pero tenía planeado ser más activo una vez haya terminado.

        Nadie se está sublevando y pienso que no estás viendo el punto principal del artículo. No quise atacar u ofender a nadie, y si eso pasó, lo siento muchísimo. Pero pienso que se están tomando las cosas muy, MUY personalmente y que tienen una actitud incorrecta hacia algo que realmente no merece la importancia que le están dando.

        Por último, dije que este lugar está EN EL MEDIO DEL DESIERTO, no que es un lugar desierto. Lee de nuevo el artículo.

        Gracias por tu comentario. Espero verte pronto.

      • Anonymous

        bueno io contigo no tengo ningun problema por que no te conosco mucho … pero sabes que para mi la comunicacion entre las personas k son el nucleo de un problema,, lo mejor para eso es hablarlo con ella/os… no hacer una polémica …solo eso …

      • http://twitter.com/soujiroelric Carlos Vergara

        As I said, it was not my intention to make problems or cause any kind of controversy, but to inform other people and give my point of view about a topic they don’t really think much about (and as you can see, it’s a pretty popular topic right now, and they liked it a lot.) I’m sorry if these controversies happened.

        Como mencioné, no fue mi intención hacer problemas o causar cualquier tipo de controversia, sino que informar a otras personas y dar mi punto de vista sobre un tema sobre el que no piensan mucho (y como puedes ver, se volvió bastante popular, y les gustó mucho.) Pido disculpas si estas polémicas ocurrieron.

      • Anonymous

        haaaa soy un jugador mas …y me llamo diego si me conoces :D

      • http://twitter.com/soujiroelric Carlos Vergara

        And second, I insist: If you have a problem with me, we can have a talk anytime, I can go any time to solve this issue. Please keep personal attacks outside this website though, or I will see myself forced to flag your comments.

        Y segundo, insisto: Si tienes problemas personales conmigo, podemos conversar cuando gustes, puedo ir cuando sea a resolver este problema. Sólo mantén los ataques personales fuera de este sitio web, o me veré obligado a marcar tus comentarios.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve been to Iquique. Beautiful beach and beach loving life style. I was scooped up by some nice locals who insisted I stay with their family a few nights. Nice that this game is so international it can reach a sleepy town like Iquique. Chilean pop-art cartooning has its own history, like Japanese cartooning, and I can see how Pokemon would get there, but Iquique is off the beaten path for most backpackers I was so glad to have took it in!

    • http://twitter.com/soujiroelric Carlos Vergara

      Really?! When did you come here? I’m glad you liked this sleepy town!

      • Anonymous

        I was there is 1999 or 2000. I have a lot of extended family Santiago that I had to get away from :-)

  • Anonymous

    This is a very interesting and unique article. Thank you for writing it.
    It gives us all an interesting view on how the Pokemon TCG is played in a different country, so thanks. :)

  • http://twitter.com/vguerrerojofre victor guerrero jofr

    es complicado.. rivalidad existe y por monton :) e intentando muchas veces conseguirme las cartas y diego tu sabes no voi por lo mismo me desagrada el caracter de siertos personajes, lo siente te estimo mucho pero tu sabes como son las cosas. que caco copie mazos y se ponga como 1 gym lider de nose que es cosa de el. Bueno saludos. porque uxies solo tienen usted y don marco xD

    • Anonymous

      si lo se pero creo que deben ser mas comunicativos …solo eso saben que siempre he sido re buena onda … lo mejor de cualquier problema es hablarlo..conversarlo y asi se resuelve .. :D

      • http://twitter.com/soujiroelric Carlos Vergara

        Diego, I don’t have any problems with you, at all, and I deeply thank you for your openness. Sure, next time I have a problem, I’ll make sure to talk it with you, then =)

        Diego, no tengo problemas contigo, para nada, y estoy muy agradecido por ser tan abierto. Claro, la próxima vez que hayan problemas, me encargaré de hablarlo contigo =)

  • http://twitter.com/soujiroelric Carlos Vergara

    People, I need to clarify some things.

    First of all, I want to keep clear that getting cards here is possible. However, since we don’t have a league (until next week, that is), some cards, especially some of the cards distributed as league promos, are hard to find because these aren’t distributed as such. Our only possible ways are buying online (something the store supports) or buying them somehow. Some decks here are built without staples like Uxie or Azelf, as I was informed, and these decks are still competitively viable.

    Second, an errata: The owners of Mundo Alterno are not the same owners of I.N.K.

    Third: I want to apologise for the bits of “facts” (which are not that factual) about the store I said about. I should have not mentioned anything about it, and they are incorrect and false. That is just based upon my experience with people inside the store (which have said things like that) and my mistake was to take things too generally. I did not want to make an uproar because of this, and I’m deeply sorry about that.

    I hope you have enjoyed the lecture, and I will see you around =)

    • Anonymous

      The important thing is that you got people interested in the game in Chile who wouldn’t even care otherwise.

      Whatever is going on, it’s obvious that it is more difficult for Pokemon players there than it is in the US or Europe.

      I hope that things work out there and the game grows.