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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XUUNX7VMZ4VU2VXABXPFNYONJQ Edgar F

    I can’t say we’re too far apart, bro, and your talk of Weavile makes me wonder if my deck should cut to 2-2; I saw it more as an early game disruptor, but a late game post-Judge card might be more apt, as I’m rushing to set up a Yanmega and a Stage 2 already. I still think Weavile is GREAT in this deck, though, and would never cut it completely. Sneasel gives another solid attacker, though, so I’m not entirely sold on losing my 3.

  • Anonymous

    Well written article, unique concept, and a solid list, too. Great article, Zack. Also, the definition of yandere kind of took me by surprise. For some reason, I thought it had something to do with an actual Deer, even though it wouldn’t have made any sense, given the deck involves a giant magnet and an oversized dragonfly…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AHE7W74T3ZL5RFLI4R2B7A6ZIQ Alex Holdway

    A guy at my league last year tore my g-dos build apart with this, just kept judging away impersonated ‘karps. and with VS seeker back then it just kept on happening. Great list, will be a good deck.

    • Anonymous

      Haha, yes, the MD-on variant’s favorite trick against G-Dos is a turn one collector for giratina, magnemite, yanma.  Drop the basics, and then let loose the karps back on in. 

  • Anonymous

    Over techd. Good luck against Stage 1 decks. ;/
    And don’t tell me you can consistantly beat them because that would be ridiculous.

    • Anonymous

      So what would you change then?  Not being ironic or rude, just honestly wondering what you meant by “the simple things that could make this deck work.”

      • Anonymous

        I don’t want to show my list. I didn’t want this deck to pop up on the internet and it finally did. I’ll just saying the spiritombs/cleffa/shaymin/zekrom arent needed. I’d personally play Bouffalant over Zekrom for Umbreon UD. I don’t play Tyrogue even though I want to fit one in. His risk Vs reward isn’t good enough for me. I might throw one in for nats though. I just don’t like getting donked by another Tyrogue. If you want to play on playtcg we could. I will show you my list on there. I just don’t want it publicly posted.

      • Anonymous

        Sounds like a plan. Pm me on the forums.

      • Anonymous

        Sounds like a plan. Pm me on the forums.

      • Anonymous

        idk where to do that. i just read articles on here. i’m more active on pokegym. I have the same name on there. you could pm me and we could set something up.

      • Anonymous

        Yo! Let me in on it too guys.

      • Anonymous

        Sounds like a plan. Pm me on the forums.

      • Anonymous

        How doers Bouffalant help much? It is rather weak unless one of your Pokemon were just knocked out the turn before. Since Umbreon does not do a ton of damage, it is not likely that you just suffered a knock out. At least Zekrom gains power as it takes damage. Bouffalant will just keep dishing out 20 damage until it is gone.

      • Anonymous

        Bouffalant is miles easier to get out and you would just be using him for umbreon. I don’t even use them. I don’t play an Umbreon counter. I’m not scared of too many umbreons. If they are going to wall me. So be it. I have enough pokemon to do 90. I will be charging up my bench for after and they will have nothing. Bouffalant also OHKOs RDL

      • Anonymous

        Well, one thing about having the affro buffalo is that it forces your opponent to be weary about playing down RDL.  It serving as an umbreon counter is just sort of a bonus. 

  • Anonymous

    This is a strong deck.   I’ve seen Magnetic Draw and Junk Arm synergy tear it up.  I’ve been frustrated by Yanmega/Judge countless times.  It’s a tier 1 pairing, and I think you would had gone far at Nationals.  
    Thanks for sharing.

  • the sidewalk

    I love me some Yanmega, and this is a cool engine in theory… But I’m not sure if I can see this going very far in a format without BTS.

    • Anonymous

      I like how Cam liked your post while I beat his decks consistantly with my version of this. Then again, he is in seniors. lol

    • Anonymous

      Is this the part where I say “I told you so?” or should I wait until it does well at worlds, too?

      All kidding aside, most people did underestimate this deck, but the results speak for themselves. 

      • the sidewalk

        Yeah, you’ve certainly earned every right to say that. I commend you for sharing a Nats-winning deck with people who don’t feel like paying for a UG account.

      • Anonymous

        Ironically, this was very briefly mentioned on the UG.  To be honest, this deck flew mostly under the radar, with the exception of this article, and ab out 5 posts total on the ‘gym. 

        Glad to see it do so well, though. 

  • Travis

    This is what I love about the new format. You can throw together seemingly random and crazy Pokemon, and it’s a deck that can actually win. Great article Yanmega Guy!

  • Anonymous

    dude ive been running this card since it came out, and when it came out people hated it. so good

  • Anonymous

    One of the reasons you need Pachi and Cleffa in the deck is to counter the monumental ugliness that is Yanmega. That should have been explained.

    Apart from that, quality article as usual.

  • Anonymous

    This is my favourite deck to play in HGSS on. The two of them have more synergy than about anything, perhaps even more than Donphan and Machamp do. You haven’t mentioned it but Yanmega also covers Magnezone’s Fighting weakness. Now Yanmega isn’t too great of a Donphan counter but it does a good job of holding it off, stopping Donphan from benching things it can kill with Linear Attack, etc.

    I use a much less teched out version. As far as I’m concerned the deck doesn’t really have any kind of autoloss or bad match-up that requires teching, so I would rather have the consistency. Thicker Pokémon lines and 4 Junk Arm is really my preference here.

  • Anonymous

    I like the general vibe of the article, but it seems like this deck is more in-tune with last format. Here are some issues i have:

    * A Zekrom thrown in to counter UMBREON? Umbreon is a trash card now, and will not be played heavily, at least not played by a good player with or without a good deck. Umbreon raped last format – I’ve used Yanmega/Umbreon in tournies in the past to some success – but in HG/SS on, Umbreon got the short end of the stick. Besides, you can snipe out their bench anyways with yanmega. By no means is umbreon going to end this deck.

    * Inclusion of Spiritomb – a really mediocre card that really is only decent in lostgar with mime synergy. why just not run 4 copycats? 4 copycat is more valuable ovn this new format b/c of ninetails. It is much easier to go into top deck mode this format what with uxie gone, so often you opponent can have a terrible hand. Giving them a fresh PONT, without them having to use a supporter for their turn is bad.

    * Communication not maxed out – why? It is simply a good card. Even the best trainer lock decks will max this card out. It is just too powerful not to use to the fullest.

    * 3 collectors and no dual balls – you are going to get slow line starts without some sort of t1 consistent pokesearch. At least have 4 collectors since this deck does not run all that many basics – especially basics that aren’t endangered of being donked t1.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah like some others said, some Stage 1 decks may hurt you a lot. Without BTS it’s going to be tough to play it. But as long as you play test it, see if it feels comfortable. Whatever works.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UMR5AXWIW5YFA5I4C3ZO3HMLC4 AndrewV

    LOL nice name :)

  • Anonymous

    As the originator of MegaJudge I looked forward to playing it in the new format but initial testing did not do too well as I had issues with Zekrom and Reshiram.  Yanmega was not taking enough prizes against decks with such high HP.  I felt it needed another attacker and worked in a Zekrom line as well with Pachy and Shaymin for options.  I am still working the list and was interested in some of your ideas and the comments posted on this thread.  I agree that it might be too teched out but the list seems fun.  I worry about your energy count and I think you need a bigger Maggy line up.

  • Anonymous

    As the originator of MegaJudge I was so excited to play this in the new format.  Initial testing did not impress me as I had a hard time with Zekrom and Reshiram.  Recently I have been working with a similar build to yours  with the inclusion of my own Zekrom, Pachy and Shaymin.  I think some of your ideas are very intersting but I agree with some of the comments here that it might be too teched out.  One concern is the energy count.  I love Yanmega but too many cards OHKO it these days and feel another solid fighter is needed.

  • aura

    Cabd is back with more Yanmega stuff… I might start using Zekrom/Donphan just to screw with this deck

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6FNSXA2ZPEYNI7FSJLHXER5HQY Austin Ball

    Sorry if you’re not the guy I’m speaking of, but I think I met you at Russo’s Books in Bakersfield, California at the Battle Road that was hosted there on June 12.

    • Anonymous

      Yes, that was me.  I was so close to top cut, went 4-1 and lost due to opponent’s losses.  Were you one of my round opponents?

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6FNSXA2ZPEYNI7FSJLHXER5HQY Austin Ball

        No, but we did have a match afterwards.

  • http://profiles.google.com/cloneworksadmin CloneWorks Admin

    for something a bit more fun, i tried Zoroark in this build in lieu of Yanmega and it worked okay against this exact list – not saying this is the way to play around it, but i did win with them having 4 prizes left

  • Anonymous

    Congratulations for this nats-winning deck :P