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  • Dave Hueglin

    Blaziken FB be is weak to water, but he can also hit for 60 (1F, 1C) if the opponent has a water Pokemon in play. Luring Flame (1F) can pull someone off the Bench and burn them.

    You could use Blaziken to finish off a Kingdra with Vapor Kick, after you hit once with Flash Impact. Free retreat next turn and bring up Blaziken for the KO. You won’t take another 30 damage to your bench. You would just need to watch that there was not another water Pokemon ready to come up and OHKO Blaziken.

    He’d also help out if you ran into a Dialga G.

    As you are already running 3 SP Energy you would not need to add in any Fire Energy.

  • Dave Hueglin

    Blaziken FB be is weak to water, but he can also hit for 60 (1F, 1C) if the opponent has a water Pokemon in play. Luring Flame (1F) can pull someone off the Bench and burn them.

    You could use Blaziken to finish off a Kingdra with Vapor Kick, after you hit once with Flash Impact. Free retreat next turn and bring up Blaziken for the KO. You won’t take another 30 damage to your bench. You would just need to watch that there was not another water Pokemon ready to come up and OHKO Blaziken.

    He’d also help out if you ran into a Dialga G.

    As you are already running 3 SP Energy you would not need to add in any Fire Energy.

  • http://twitter.com/kwisdumb kwisdumb

    Re: Drifblim — That’s a good thought, too bad it didn’t work out for you.

    Re: Quagsire — Good choice! I ran 2 Quagsire, but 1 should work just fine. Another suggestion is to put the damage on guys like Crobat or Uxie that can be Poke Turned/SSU’d/Shuffled, etc. so that it can disappear eventually. Quagsire is definitely the way to go though.

    Re: Claydols, etc. — Yeah, sniping Baltoys and Claydols early is a huge positive about this deck. Being able to do 60 for one (kinda) on T3 of the game in general is huge for this deck, and has lead me to a lot of donk wins. Combine that with Crobat G and you’re doing great.

    Re: Aaron’s, Night Maintenance — I’ve never been a huge fan of Aaron’s Collection, but I’d also suggest Pokemon Rescue in this deck, I ran 1 and it was helpful.

    Re: Crobat — I always ran two Crobat and felt it was enough, but I never tried with 3 so I can’t really comment.

    Re: Kindgra — I’ve played Kindra dozens of times with this deck. I think the key is to be as fast as possible. I’d recommend running either a Lake Boundary or a Lucario GL, making it that much easier to kill a Horsea on T1. I also make it a rule to add a stadium no matter what, just to knock my opponents stadium out.

    You should mess around with BlazeRay and/or LuxApe.

  • http://twitter.com/kwisdumb kwisdumb

    Re: Drifblim — That’s a good thought, too bad it didn’t work out for you.

    Re: Quagsire — Good choice! I ran 2 Quagsire, but 1 should work just fine. Another suggestion is to put the damage on guys like Crobat or Uxie that can be Poke Turned/SSU’d/Shuffled, etc. so that it can disappear eventually. Quagsire is definitely the way to go though.

    Re: Claydols, etc. — Yeah, sniping Baltoys and Claydols early is a huge positive about this deck. Being able to do 60 for one (kinda) on T3 of the game in general is huge for this deck, and has lead me to a lot of donk wins. Combine that with Crobat G and you’re doing great.

    Re: Aaron’s, Night Maintenance — I’ve never been a huge fan of Aaron’s Collection, but I’d also suggest Pokemon Rescue in this deck, I ran 1 and it was helpful.

    Re: Crobat — I always ran two Crobat and felt it was enough, but I never tried with 3 so I can’t really comment.

    Re: Kindgra — I’ve played Kindra dozens of times with this deck. I think the key is to be as fast as possible. I’d recommend running either a Lake Boundary or a Lucario GL, making it that much easier to kill a Horsea on T1. I also make it a rule to add a stadium no matter what, just to knock my opponents stadium out.

    You should mess around with BlazeRay and/or LuxApe.

  • http://www.adamcapriola.com/ Adam Capriola

    Thanks for the suggestions guys!

    Dave, yah I think Blaziken could be a great addition to the deck. I am trying to see if I can keep it with just Luxray right now, but Blaziken might make the deck just that much better.

    K dub, I tried to put damage on Crobats and Uxies, but it was hard to find spots where I could clean the damage off of them. Quagsire should be perfect.

    I love Aaron’s just because you can grab it with Cyrus. You can’t do that with Night Maintenance or Pokemon Rescue.

    And ya I will try those other two decks out, just messing with this first. ;)

  • http://www.sixprizes.com Adam

    Thanks for the suggestions guys!

    Dave, yah I think Blaziken could be a great addition to the deck. I am trying to see if I can keep it with just Luxray right now, but Blaziken might make the deck just that much better.

    K dub, I tried to put damage on Crobats and Uxies, but it was hard to find spots where I could clean the damage off of them. Quagsire should be perfect.

    I love Aaron’s just because you can grab it with Cyrus. You can’t do that with Night Maintenance or Pokemon Rescue.

    And ya I will try those other two decks out, just messing with this first. ;)

  • Xicious

    I can’t imagine how flash impact would hurt you all that much. What were you using your poketurns on? I’d add Vs. Seeker to the deck and maybe Lucario GL.

    • http://www.adamcapriola.com/ Adam Capriola

      I put most of my recoil damage onto Crobats, but it added up very quickly. I usually held on to my Poke Turns to use on Luxrays, if possible I would drop another Crobat rather than use a Poke Turn on one already benched.

      It may have partly been the matchup causing me so many problems as far as bench damage, but I think keeping all your Pokemon without damage via Quagsire is a good thing.

  • Xicious

    I can’t imagine how flash impact would hurt you all that much. What were you using your poketurns on? I’d add Vs. Seeker to the deck and maybe Lucario GL.

    • http://www.sixprizes.com Adam

      I put most of my recoil damage onto Crobats, but it added up very quickly. I usually held on to my Poke Turns to use on Luxrays, if possible I would drop another Crobat rather than use a Poke Turn on one already benched.

      It may have partly been the matchup causing me so many problems as far as bench damage, but I think keeping all your Pokemon without damage via Quagsire is a good thing.

  • Dave Hueglin

    I agree its good to try and fit in at least one Stadium, if only to counter your opponent’s. It’s not foolproof however, as many decks that rely on Stadiums run 3-5 of them to counter your counter.

  • Dave Hueglin

    I agree its good to try and fit in at least one Stadium, if only to counter your opponent’s. It’s not foolproof however, as many decks that rely on Stadiums run 3-5 of them to counter your counter.

  • http://www.adamcapriola.com/ Adam Capriola

    Tested some today (not with this deck), but I realized that this NEEDS Toxicroak Promo to OHKO other Luxrays and possibly Uxie LV.X to KO Toxicroaks.

    • http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=logo#/profile.php?id=552027746&ref=profile brian

      Both uxie X and toxicroak offer 2 more solid attackers and 2 more types to hit for weakness (giving you 5 total). I would do it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=logo#/profile.php?id=552027746&ref=profile brian

      Both uxie X and toxicroak offer 2 more solid attackers and 2 more types to hit for weakness (giving you 5 total). I would do it.

  • http://www.sixprizes.com Adam

    Tested some today (not with this deck), but I realized that this NEEDS Toxicroak Promo to OHKO other Luxrays and possibly Uxie LV.X to KO Toxicroaks.

    • http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=logo#/profile.php?id=552027746&ref=profile brian

      Both uxie X and toxicroak offer 2 more solid attackers and 2 more types to hit for weakness (giving you 5 total). I would do it.

  • yoyofsho16

    I would consider Sunyshore, Adam. 4 of them.

    It’s really your only viable out against Machamp and soon-to-be Relicanth.

    • http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=logo#/profile.php?id=552027746&ref=profile brian

      Sunyshore only adds to the damage relicanth can do to your bench, so its not that great of a solution…lol

  • yoyofsho16

    I would consider Sunyshore, Adam. 4 of them.

    It’s really your only viable out against Machamp and soon-to-be Relicanth.

    • http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=logo#/profile.php?id=552027746&ref=profile brian

      Sunyshore only adds to the damage relicanth can do to your bench, so its not that great of a solution…lol

  • http://www.adamcapriola.com/ Adam Capriola

    I think Machamp will have to be a loss for this deck, they play Broken-Time Space anyway and would be able to counter your stadium more times than not.

    I can let Relicanth OHKO me because I have a couple ways to OHKO it back. I don’t know how effective Relicanth will prove to be. Besides if I have a Stadium out against it, that means it can hit any of my Pokemon for 60-90 damage. I’d rather have less tools in play and deal with the OHKO of my active.

  • http://www.sixprizes.com Adam

    I think Machamp will have to be a loss for this deck, they play Broken-Time Space anyway and would be able to counter your stadium more times than not.

    I can let Relicanth OHKO me because I have a couple ways to OHKO it back. I don’t know how effective Relicanth will prove to be. Besides if I have a Stadium out against it, that means it can hit any of my Pokemon for 60-90 damage. I’d rather have less tools in play and deal with the OHKO of my active.

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