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  • pokefart

    Great idea, gotta love the shiftry.

  • pokefart

    Great idea, gotta love the shiftry.

  • Lamar

    You’ve inspired me to try to put my Shiftry deck back together. The Ariados MT tech is ingenious. However, I would want to try adding Dugtrio PL to the list somehow. It has a Poke-Body that puts 20 damage on your opponent’s retreating Pokemon. Combined with Ariados, retreating becomes expensive.

  • Lamar

    You’ve inspired me to try to put my Shiftry deck back together. The Ariados MT tech is ingenious. However, I would want to try adding Dugtrio PL to the list somehow. It has a Poke-Body that puts 20 damage on your opponent’s retreating Pokemon. Combined with Ariados, retreating becomes expensive.

  • Tony

    Nice deck, original.

  • Tony

    Nice deck, original.

  • http://www.adamcapriola.com/ Adam Capriola

    Thanks for the article, it’s very well written and the list looks pretty decent. :)

    Not sure how competitive Shiftry will ever be as its damage output is somewhat low, but it can definitely make for a good fun deck.

    • Torry Chen

      I think Darkrai Lv.X and Shiftry might be just awsome, because it’s pretty much a autimatic knock out. I’m testing this at Cities or Provincials

  • http://www.sixprizes.com Adam

    Thanks for the article, it’s very well written and the list looks pretty decent. :)

    Not sure how competitive Shiftry will ever be as its damage output is somewhat low, but it can definitely make for a good fun deck.

    • Torry Chen

      I think Darkrai Lv.X and Shiftry might be just awsome, because it’s pretty much a autimatic knock out. I’m testing this at Cities or Provincials

  • Willy G.

    Great deck, I love this idea. I’d suggest maybe using Giratina’s (PL) “Let Loose” Poke-Power to try to even the hands so you can get a confusion lock with Conform.

  • Willy G.

    Great deck, I love this idea. I’d suggest maybe using Giratina’s (PL) “Let Loose” Poke-Power to try to even the hands so you can get a confusion lock with Conform.

  • Power Swing

    Great article! You did an in depth review of exactly what each card purpose was. I think shiftry is pretty decent if you take a good long look at it. I have actually been working with it myself. I play flygon and palkia in my shiftry deck though. Playing shiftry with flygon and palkia is pretty much like taking FGD and Flylock and putting them in one deck. You can pull things up with palkia and lock it with either trapinch or shiftry (if you have the same amount of cards in hand as your opponent). But if you want to power lock, then shiftry can do that as well by pulling up a claydol via palkia and then using “seal off”. But like I said great article, it’s nice to see some “rouge” stuff flying around.

  • Power Swing

    Great article! You did an in depth review of exactly what each card purpose was. I think shiftry is pretty decent if you take a good long look at it. I have actually been working with it myself. I play flygon and palkia in my shiftry deck though. Playing shiftry with flygon and palkia is pretty much like taking FGD and Flylock and putting them in one deck. You can pull things up with palkia and lock it with either trapinch or shiftry (if you have the same amount of cards in hand as your opponent). But if you want to power lock, then shiftry can do that as well by pulling up a claydol via palkia and then using “seal off”. But like I said great article, it’s nice to see some “rouge” stuff flying around.

  • SMGausch

    Bannette and Blissey are two techs off the top of my head that could help you match your hand to your opponents if confusion and keeping your opponent from attaking is really the aim of the deck. If that body worked in between turns I think all you would see is Shiftry and Dialga G, so luckly it isn’t that powerful of a body.

  • SMGausch

    Bannette and Blissey are two techs off the top of my head that could help you match your hand to your opponents if confusion and keeping your opponent from attaking is really the aim of the deck. If that body worked in between turns I think all you would see is Shiftry and Dialga G, so luckly it isn’t that powerful of a body.

  • SMGausch

    Nice Article too!!! It’s always good to see as many ideas flowing as possible.

  • SMGausch

    Nice Article too!!! It’s always good to see as many ideas flowing as possible.

  • POKER FACE

    I guess this deck would be even better when copycat comes out ;D

    • nardd

      yeah I was about to say that haha :] It’s hard to get the same number of cards as your opponent sometimes, especially in this list that doesn’t really run any way to manipulate your hand size other than Claydol and playing down cards (which is unreliable for the needed confusion)

      If you don’t get the confusion, Shiftry isn’t worth it.

  • POKER FACE

    I guess this deck would be even better when copycat comes out ;D

    • nardd

      yeah I was about to say that haha :] It’s hard to get the same number of cards as your opponent sometimes, especially in this list that doesn’t really run any way to manipulate your hand size other than Claydol and playing down cards (which is unreliable for the needed confusion)

      If you don’t get the confusion, Shiftry isn’t worth it.

  • http://forum.pokemon.fi/ Tonu

    Maybe adding a Unown K in? There’s a chance you can lock something at front and make it really hard to escape from it. Your opponent will be locked until it retreats (few Ariadoses raises retreat cost a lot) or until you decide to KO it. Blind, Kind, Blind, Kind, Blind, Kind… sounds great. Adding 1-1 or 2-2 Dugtrio is great tech in Shiftry. Speed Stadium is going to be beast. Oppenent can get heads from it, but they will count as tails as long as your Shiftry is an active Pokémon. :P

    You can easily cut some Candies away from the deck and add other techs. 4-3-4 line with stage 1 Pokés doesn’t need 4 Rare Candies IMO. Especially when you usually want to have Nuzleaf underneath of Shiftry. You could try to play 1-2 Broken to get your stuff on play faster and then discard it with a Speed Stadium.

  • http://forum.pokemon.fi Tonu

    Maybe adding a Unown K in? There’s a chance you can lock something at front and make it really hard to escape from it. Your opponent will be locked until it retreats (few Ariadoses raises retreat cost a lot) or until you decide to KO it. Blind, Kind, Blind, Kind, Blind, Kind… sounds great. Adding 1-1 or 2-2 Dugtrio is great tech in Shiftry. Speed Stadium is going to be beast. Oppenent can get heads from it, but they will count as tails as long as your Shiftry is an active Pokémon. :P

    You can easily cut some Candies away from the deck and add other techs. 4-3-4 line with stage 1 Pokés doesn’t need 4 Rare Candies IMO. Especially when you usually want to have Nuzleaf underneath of Shiftry. You could try to play 1-2 Broken to get your stuff on play faster and then discard it with a Speed Stadium.

  • POKER FACE

    I would also suggest teching 1 unown Q , it works perfect =) or maybe add in dugtrio over ariados?? i don’t know but i ran a rogue which is similar with the deck but i used dugtrio with ninetails PL instead.I would rather put 4 damage if your opponent retreats rather than increasing their retreat cost =/ 1-1 palkia could be decent due to increasing popularity of CurseGar, you can simply gust gengar out and just blow it off =)

  • POKER FACE

    I would also suggest teching 1 unown Q , it works perfect =) or maybe add in dugtrio over ariados?? i don’t know but i ran a rogue which is similar with the deck but i used dugtrio with ninetails PL instead.I would rather put 4 damage if your opponent retreats rather than increasing their retreat cost =/ 1-1 palkia could be decent due to increasing popularity of CurseGar, you can simply gust gengar out and just blow it off =)

  • Xdogking

    Imagine when HGSS comes out, with the release of Copycat, this could see a lot of play. Awesome.

  • Xdogking

    Imagine when HGSS comes out, with the release of Copycat, this could see a lot of play. Awesome.

  • tragicmat1

    Yay ! My article got posted. After a more testing, I found that adding + 1 moonlight stadium and – 1 speed Stadium works really nicely. Also, when you can’t get the Confusion, Memory Berry on Nuzleaf’s “Blind” attack helps. It’s basically just your average sand attack with a damage output.

    Anyways, there’s a lot of Dugtrio suggestions here, but I just can’t seem to find room for it. This list struggles a little bit with bench space. 1 Claydol, 1 Ariados, 1 Back up Shiftry ( If they have Dark Palm Dusknoir out)

  • tragicmat1

    Yay ! My article got posted. After a more testing, I found that adding + 1 moonlight stadium and – 1 speed Stadium works really nicely. Also, when you can’t get the Confusion, Memory Berry on Nuzleaf’s “Blind” attack helps. It’s basically just your average sand attack with a damage output.

    Anyways, there’s a lot of Dugtrio suggestions here, but I just can’t seem to find room for it. This list struggles a little bit with bench space. 1 Claydol, 1 Ariados, 1 Back up Shiftry ( If they have Dark Palm Dusknoir out)

  • Colts8729

    I played him on RS and this deck can easily catch you off guard if you are not prepared. Perhaps the best part about this deck to me is that it has so many options. Good article…good deck

  • Colts8729

    I played him on RS and this deck can easily catch you off guard if you are not prepared. Perhaps the best part about this deck to me is that it has so many options. Good article…good deck

  • tragicmat1

    This time, I can spend a bit more time responding to posts.

    -Adam, While damage output might not be highest, since it prevents your opponent from doing damage freely, it normally works pretty well still. And with Special Darks, damage output isn’t too bad at all.

    -Willy G., Giratina’s power really would be nice since it assures equal amount of cards in our hands, but Bench space becomes a problem. And anyhow, I normally don’t have too much trouble keep my hand even with the opponent. If they run claydol, then I can almost always match it. (They’ll have under 6 cards so, I’ll cosmic power myself and make sure there are trainer’s/supporters I can use to balance to hand out.) Shuppet decks are a little harder with their big hands, but I can try and looker’s investigation it away if I get lucky.

    -Poker Face , Copy Cat will be amazing :)Also,perhaps its just different playstyle, but I enjoy locking a lot more. It makes everything worth it when they have a Spiritomb out and have super high retreat cost with Ariados. Then snipe with Nuzleafs lame 30 feint attack. But, Dugtrio may be a superior choice with it’s free retreat cost and Lightning resistance. (It’s not prone to gusting as much)

    -Tonu, Unown K Locks are always just evil :P Although, unless I’m trying to just stall till time, I wouldn’t know what to do during the wait :P As for cutting down on rare candies, I think that’s a GREAT idea. I prefer having Nuzleaf under Shiftry so much more. I just have them in hopes of more speed, but maybe Broken time Space will do good. I wish there was a trainer that searches Stadiums…

  • tragicmat1

    This time, I can spend a bit more time responding to posts.

    -Adam, While damage output might not be highest, since it prevents your opponent from doing damage freely, it normally works pretty well still. And with Special Darks, damage output isn’t too bad at all.

    -Willy G., Giratina’s power really would be nice since it assures equal amount of cards in our hands, but Bench space becomes a problem. And anyhow, I normally don’t have too much trouble keep my hand even with the opponent. If they run claydol, then I can almost always match it. (They’ll have under 6 cards so, I’ll cosmic power myself and make sure there are trainer’s/supporters I can use to balance to hand out.) Shuppet decks are a little harder with their big hands, but I can try and looker’s investigation it away if I get lucky.

    -Poker Face , Copy Cat will be amazing :)Also,perhaps its just different playstyle, but I enjoy locking a lot more. It makes everything worth it when they have a Spiritomb out and have super high retreat cost with Ariados. Then snipe with Nuzleafs lame 30 feint attack. But, Dugtrio may be a superior choice with it’s free retreat cost and Lightning resistance. (It’s not prone to gusting as much)

    -Tonu, Unown K Locks are always just evil :P Although, unless I’m trying to just stall till time, I wouldn’t know what to do during the wait :P As for cutting down on rare candies, I think that’s a GREAT idea. I prefer having Nuzleaf under Shiftry so much more. I just have them in hopes of more speed, but maybe Broken time Space will do good. I wish there was a trainer that searches Stadiums…

  • HunterJ

    good idea with the shiftry but i wouldnt use ariados i would swap it fro a powerhouser

  • HunterJ

    good idea with the shiftry but i wouldnt use ariados i would swap it fro a powerhouser

  • FunnyBear

    When this first came out, I missed the “on your opponents turn” part and thought with Dialga X from GE (Time Skip) this broke the game.

  • FunnyBear

    When this first came out, I missed the “on your opponents turn” part and thought with Dialga X from GE (Time Skip) this broke the game.

  • jesus69

    I’ll will tell you right now why this deck could never become good.
    Because of Foretress.and the SW blastoise.
    Talk about my favorite pokecombo ever.
    the deck nver attacks and auto wins shiftry.
    But i do still love the card and nice article.

  • jesus69

    I’ll will tell you right now why this deck could never become good.
    Because of Foretress.and the SW blastoise.
    Talk about my favorite pokecombo ever.
    the deck nver attacks and auto wins shiftry.
    But i do still love the card and nice article.

  • tragicmat1

    Haha, true that. All tails for Forretress power + 7 energies from Waterlog could OHKO all my pokemon. 6 prizes in a row if my bench is full. Must be the few was that could happen… Of course, Shiftry’s seal of could block your pokepower/pokebody next turn. :P

  • tragicmat1

    Haha, true that. All tails for Forretress power + 7 energies from Waterlog could OHKO all my pokemon. 6 prizes in a row if my bench is full. Must be the few was that could happen… Of course, Shiftry’s seal of could block your pokepower/pokebody next turn. :P

  • Torry Chen

    Do any of you guys know how unpopular Shiftry is in my area? Well it’s so bad that at one tournament I went to I saw a Shiftry thrown on the ground for nothing but for waste.

  • Torry Chen

    Do any of you guys know how unpopular Shiftry is in my area? Well it’s so bad that at one tournament I went to I saw a Shiftry thrown on the ground for nothing but for waste.

  • junior

    I used this deck in a small tournament and came in 2nd, losing to lady gaga. But I beat pooka.

  • junior

    I used this deck in a small tournament and came in 2nd, losing to lady gaga. But I beat pooka.

  • mike

    This deck would be much better if the supporter “Copycat” was still legal!! I made a deck with the shiftry’s and it did decent.

  • mike

    This deck would be much better if the supporter “Copycat” was still legal!! I made a deck with the shiftry’s and it did decent.

  • Gman

    Just a thought, you say Ariados would be useless against Flygon but you don’t pay attention to Shiftry’s Seal off attack, that means your opponents turn after you attack with your Shiftry’s Seal Off, Flygon can’t use Rainbow Float, not sure about Wind Erosion though. Nice article BTW

  • Gman

    Just a thought, you say Ariados would be useless against Flygon but you don’t pay attention to Shiftry’s Seal off attack, that means your opponents turn after you attack with your Shiftry’s Seal Off, Flygon can’t use Rainbow Float, not sure about Wind Erosion though. Nice article BTW

  • tragicmat1

    Yep, thats completely true. Ariados can’t do anything against Rainbow Float. Luckily there are no basic colorless energies. However, this deck does suffer if the main attacker in the deck is not flygon and is ,say , Machamp.Moonlight becomes a problem sometimes as well.

    In any case, COPYCAT IS HERE!

  • tragicmat1

    Yep, thats completely true. Ariados can’t do anything against Rainbow Float. Luckily there are no basic colorless energies. However, this deck does suffer if the main attacker in the deck is not flygon and is ,say , Machamp.Moonlight becomes a problem sometimes as well.

    In any case, COPYCAT IS HERE!

  • T-tar 64

    Shiftry is great but I have a question. What if you want to retreat Shiftry!?! Switch? Warp point? (scratch that) Also maybe you can throw in Pokemon contest hall. So set up is a piece o cake!

  • sparticus

    just put in a moonlight stadium, all dark mons, retreat cost is set to 0

  • sparticus

    just put in a moonlight stadium, all dark mons, retreat cost is set to 0

  • Dialgarock

    try to add Copycat then use conform…it makes the opponent to lose easily

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