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  • Anonymous

    I think you should only play one UD Vespiquen and and for the other 3 places you should use the Vespiquen from Stormfront because of its Green Dignity Poke-Body, which allows you to do 10 more damage for each of your grass Pokemon on your Bench if you have more prizes left than your opponent. But it really looks like a solid list to me.

  • Anonymous

    I think you should only play one UD Vespiquen and and for the other 3 places you should use the Vespiquen from Stormfront because of its Green Dignity Poke-Body, which allows you to do 10 more damage for each of your grass Pokemon on your Bench if you have more prizes left than your opponent. But it really looks like a solid list to me.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BTINVJZSUMIC7GIGSQLPZQTNRA Brittany

      Yeah, I agree. Use the one UD Vespiquen to really help with the SP matchups because it helps agains Honchkrow G and Garchomp C Lv.X.

      Use the other 3 to add more of an attacking power.

      Like I said on the last Combee article, Combee has HUGE potential to be a tier 2 deck(i have big doubts about it beating out LuxChomp for 1). However, when people try to work on decks that aren’t well established, they add in way to many techs and ditch consistancy.

      You should make it a 2-3 or 3-3 Sunflora line, get rid of the Shaymin lines. Get in some switches to you can get Uxie Lv.X in play quicker. Get rid of 1 grass and 1 psychic energy for 2 rainbow energies. Also, reduce Unown P to 1. Also, get an Azelf in there.

      I think this deck’s best bet to do well would be to be ubber consistent with enough techs to get rid of auto-losses, but keep it consistent. That is a big reason why rogue decks don’t do well, cause they just aren’t fast/consistent enough(see gyarados when it came 8th at worlds for the exception)

      It should run somewhat like a mix of Jumpluff and Beedrill.

  • Anonymous

    I hate Sunflora! Lol
    -1-1 Sunflora
    +1 Bebe
    +1 Comunicator
    -4 Pyschic
    +4 Call (You probably make a mistake here)
    -4 SSU
    +4 Whatever make this faster, you dont need SSU

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Dickson/609069347 James Dickson

      I love sunflora lol.

      • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/ZETUB3TM3ZC4KJULZ4PYPEJR7I Tony

        I love Sunflora too- + 10 sunkurn/sunflora!!!

      • Anonymous

        me too

  • Anonymous

    Gengar SF can still snipe the bench. “Shadow Room” places damage counters, and does not deal direct damage. Also, Unown P is not a grass type, meaning it is not protected.

    Why no BTS? And only two PKMN Coll? One collector for this deck is almost an auto-setup going turn two: Two Combees and an Unown P.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Dickson/609069347 James Dickson

      BTS was mentioned. its amazing how people skip articles and read decklists.

      Decklists are nothing…

      • Anonymous

        Deckllist should be a summary of the overall article. I put stock into reading for school. Pokemon is a past time, not a lifestyle.

  • Anonymous

    You should also consider using the Vespiqueen SF. It’s body is great for coming from behind in prizes and also it has a much lower retreat cost. Better attacks too. Just a thought.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/pgmcsskater pgmcsskater

      I think there should be at least 2 SF Vespiquens…

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/pgmcsskater pgmcsskater

      I think there should be at least 2 SF Vespiquens…

  • Anonymous

    Haha I just gotta rev unown P haha random I know. But ya, I’ve hared a lot about this deck but I’ve only seen it played once. I can see where people are coming from when the set up takes too much and with Viletomb increasing in popularity there’s going to be a lot of gengar SF, which like ofr3ako said has shodow room which takes out and exposed combee…but thats only if Shaymin Lv X isn’t out. Overall I really like the deck.

    P.S. People always say “Vespiqueen” but there’s only 1 “e” at the end so it’s not “queen” it’s “quen” lol just though I’d through that out there.

  • http://www.adamcapriola.com/ Adam Capriola

    “PONT or Professor Oak’s New Theory as its known in Kanto, is this decks primary means of draw. This is because all of the other draw engines either suck (Noctowl, I’m looking at you mate) or are type specific (Ninetales where art thou in my hour of need…) or are geriatrics (Claydol…sniff). I also live in fear of the hype train, that seems to be tooting Viletomb variants as the flavour of the month.”

    Haha great lines there!

    As far the deck goes I think you’re going to need some Warp Energies, Warp Points, or Switches to get Shaymin out a little easier. Right now you have to wait for a knock out and retreat.

    Warp Energy could also really help if a benched Vespiquen gets pulled active somehow.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/pgmcsskater pgmcsskater

    -4 psychic ( i like the idea of unown doing damge… its just not enough to make it worth while)+4 Call-1 Palmers-4SSU-1 PONT-1 Judge (judge hurts you more than helps)+3 Pokemon Rescue+1 Memory Berry+1 Unown Q+1 Collector+1 CommunicationI also think you should run 1 combee honey… also I would find room for 1 Dept Store Girl and 3 BTS

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Damian-Burgin/100000473628426 Damian Burgin

    This is my version of the deck. Seen it played a league, and it does fairly descent.-2 Sunflora-2 Sunkern-1 Shaymin-1 Shaymin skyforme-3 UD Vespiquen-4 psychic+2 Cherubii+2 Cherrim (salty sweet pollen pokebody)+3 SF Vespiquen+4 Rainbow energySo… you have your Queen on the bench shielding everyone with either a rainbow on her, or unown P setting 1 dmg counter on her. 2 Salty sweet pollen, And a SF queen active with an EXPERT belt on her. so she is now hitting for 60 damage and is regenerating all of that lost health. NOW you only need to fit a metapod in there. Heres your perfect scenario for you. Your queen now has a max of 160 health, no weakness, bench cannot be sniped, and is hitting like a semi for a MINIMUM of 60 damage and is regenerating 60 health every turn.

    • James Hall

      What metapod are you speaking of?

      • http://www.facebook.com/jordandbaker Jordan Baker

        HGSS

      • James Hall

        What about it makes it special?

      • James Hall

        What about it makes it special?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Martin-Garcia/676689170 Martin Garcia

      Mmm hate to break it to you, but salty sweet pollen is an attack, not a pokebody, it deals 20 damage and you can heal those 20 damage for no energy.
      Cherrim´s pokebody is called sunny day, and adds 10 damage to fire and grass pkmn´s attacks.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XJNOWAFEM7GFUG3HBZV3TSIB7U Scott

    For some reason this site is not working on Google Chrome………

    • James Hall

      I just updated and it is working fine for me….

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XJNOWAFEM7GFUG3HBZV3TSIB7U Scott

        It just stopped working about 3 days ago. I know he updated the site but for some reason it doesnt work with Chrome on my computer anymore. It works in IE and Firefox but I dont like using those but I guess I have to now……..

      • James Hall

        I am seeing this now all of a sudden. This is a Chrome issue…

    • James Hall

      I just updated and it is working fine for me….

    • http://www.adamcapriola.com/ Adam Capriola

      I actually only use Chrome so I’m not sure why it isn’t working for you.

      What happens exactly, do you get a blank page?

      • James Hall

        Adam, I am now seeing this now all of a sudden. It is probably an issue with Chrome and not your site. I am having some issues at work too. We can look over it tonight if you like…

      • http://www.adamcapriola.com/ Adam Capriola

        Let’s plan for Thursday again, I had some obligations tonight.

      • Anonymous

        I used to use google chrome and eventually it just crashed and stopped working. Same thing happened to a lot of my friends. Not a very reliable browser…It was good while it lasted haha

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XJNOWAFEM7GFUG3HBZV3TSIB7U Scott

        Yeah, it doesnt load at all. Almost like it times out.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XJNOWAFEM7GFUG3HBZV3TSIB7U Scott

        Yeah, it doesnt load at all. Almost like it times out.

  • http://twitter.com/T0nu Tonu Taitto

    I’ve been playing Galactic HQ Stadiums on a Combee deck for past few weeks since it’s nice handy move to get damage on Vespiquen without spending an energy to it or using one Bench space for Unown P. I’m not sure how well would this work on a “Vespiquen deck” (aka Memory Berry Combee) since your Vespiquens would take 20 damage every time you evolve it in play.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Martin-Garcia/676689170 Martin Garcia

      I hadnt tought about the HQ, its a really good idea and saves bench space, great job.

    • Anonymous

      Yeah, Galactic HQ sounds like it would work really well. Great idea!

  • Anonymous

    First off, I love this deck, and even more so, I’m glad I play charizard so this won’t be an issue XD. Great deck with alot of potential, but there are some very valid points in the comments here. Another collector wouldn’t hurt at all. With 2 you draw into them mid to late game mostly and they’re not that usefull then. The SF queen imo is superior, although I do like the bench shield as a body. Cherrim with their 10 extra damage would be killer, and sometimes you need to do more than 110 damage. Any deck with lv x’s needs some switch trainers or you’ll find it hard to get them out and nothing is worse than that lv X in your hand that you get to finally play after it’s effect wouldn’t help you much… seeing as your active was just knocked out. (we’ll see how well switch and warp point play after viletomb becomes the new luxchomp) I can’t wait to see this deck kick some butt, combee for worlds!

  • Anonymous

    “When Undaunted first hit the shelves here in Australia I was quite disappointed by the lack of any “stand out” cards in the set. Sure Vileplume and Weavile are quite good and maybe format defining”

    Don’t you think that there are no “stand out” cards and yet, two of them are “format defining” is a little paradoxical? :p

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Dickson/609069347 James Dickson

      It is paradoxical, but its not Pinocchio said “my nose will grow” paradoxical.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Dickson/609069347 James Dickson

      It is paradoxical, but its not Pinocchio said “my nose will grow” paradoxical.

  • Anonymous

    Pokemon – 21

    4 sableye MORE SPEED TO RUN OF SOPORTERS
    4 Combee UD
    4 Vespiqueen SF
    3 Uxie LA
    2 Shaymin UL
    2 Shaymin LV.X (Landforme) 80 more of HP is pretty good no?
    2 Unown Q They do miracles
    T/S/S – 25

    4 pokedex FAST
    4 Professor Oak’s New Theory
    4 Super Scoop Up
    3 Memory Berry
    2 Expert Belt
    3 Pokemon Collector
    3 Bebe’s Search
    2 galactic HQ
    1 Palmer’s Contribution For it have you 4 – 4 of vespiqueen not?
    Energy –10
    4 call energy
    4 raibown energy
    2 dark special energy

    3 carts more to its choice

    • Anonymous

      Read the last sentence of “Thankfulness” a littttttle more carefully……

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Martin-Garcia/676689170 Martin Garcia

      Good changes, but i definitly think this needs sunflora to speed up the reffiling of combees, considering you left 3 free spots, a 1-1 sunflora would be nice. Also, as cpeterik said, you NEED to read shaymin´s body again xD

      • Anonymous

        Fuck … you have reason

        -1shaymin
        -1shaymin
        -1uxie

        +2uxie lvl X
        +1pre of sunflora
        +1sunflora
        +2pokemon cominucation

        do you like it?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/ZETUB3TM3ZC4KJULZ4PYPEJR7I Tony

    this is a really cool deck idea, and I hope you can get it to work. Ignore the sunflora comments- YOU NEED THIS!!! Also, I like the idea of adding a 1-1 Metapod line to help you with weaknesses.

    I’d also run a little heavier supporter line than trainer line and definitely would run 4 bebes, but that’s just because I hype trainer lock decks so much (ha,ha). Also, I agree with eondusk below to add Sableye or perhaps Spiritomb and take out the psychic energy. In fact, you could throw in 4 special dark energy to give you the option of getting the T1 donk since combee only needs 1 colorless. Or, you could run call energy. I would probably try something like 3 rainbow, 2 grass, 4 call and 4 sp dark.

    Hope this deck works for you- great idea!

    • http://www.facebook.com/julliant Julliant Chen

      I don’t think there’s a need for Metapod since most Fire pokemon are gonna kill anything here in one hit regardless.

  • Anonymous

    Woah! Idea!

    -4 Psychic Energy
    -1 Shaymin UL
    -1 Shaymin LV. X (Sky Forme)

    +4 Fire Energy
    +1 Vulpix (HGSS)
    +1 Ninetails (HGSS)

    You have no real need for Psychic energies, as Unown P’s attack isn’t that great. So instead, replace those Psychic with Fire and add a 1-1 Ninetails for extra draw power! I havn’t tested it, but on paper it sounds pretty good. In my opinion, you don’t need Sky Forme and the second Shaymin, so that’s what I took out. Mabey it’ll work, but will probably be too clunky. Anyway, I just thought that would be cool to try out!

    • Anonymous

      really¡¡ is a good idea more speed, i take new ideas for this deck

  • Anonymous

    An issue with the deck is that you only have very weak basics. When I ran this deck for a short time, I used 4 call energy (probably -2 sunkern -2 sunflora, imo) to avoid (try to avoid) donks.

    You also need unown Q to get shaymin out of the active.