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  • Anonymous

    Good idea combining the two. It sounds pretty interesting. I would love to hear some results with it.

    • Anonymous

      One of my SoCal friends top-cutted with Mightychamp in San Diego.

  • Anonymous

    I saw this at a tourney at the Jersey Marathon…how’d you end up doing?

    • Anonymous

      I went 2-2, losing to Gyarados and Vilegar. (Vilegar donked me.)

      • Anonymous

        how does vilegar donk?

      • Anonymous

        You start with two Poochyenas and BTS.

  • Anonymous

    what about mightyena la?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C7OQD6BLJCXQBNSHNZWVWLRXHE George

      The Mightyena is for countering Gengar, not the SPs like the LA does. Harass would work against Gengar only if you had a full bench in play.

      • Anonymous

        it would be another sp counter, an unexpected one at that. it may be a good trick for this old dog.
        however.. i just noticed that you would need to add in dark energy, which would make it more difficult than i previously thought

      • Anonymous

        poketurn, dragonrush, bright look.

  • Anonymous

    The SP can’t possibly be favorable with only two SF Machamps.. Otherwise, I really enjoyed this!

    • Anonymous

      Yes, it can. You use the Prime once both the SFs are dead.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Bae/583235222 Peter Bae

      2 Stormfront Machamp is allk you need to have the upper hand against SP. Knocking out Machamp SF is even a tougher challenge now beacuse of the Prime that will sit on the bench until Machamp SF is ready to be taken off. And once SF is taken off, you wil be dealing with a 150HP beast hitting 60~150 easily

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001734489773 Dakota Streck

    One or two minor details I disagree with, but it was a very solid article overall. I’m curious, how do you think the deck would do against a Gengar Prime deck if Lost World is released?

    • Anonymous

      You can one-shot Gengar Prime with Mightyena, and they likely won’t run very many basics, so you can donk them. I would not like to face Gengar Prime with this deck, though.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XBE4NMYCJTT3EC5C7DHVN2CTBQ Jacob

    a 1-1 Infernape 4 x made gyarados nothing for me.

    • Anonymous

      And how does that help? I’m sorry, but that doesn’t work in here.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XBE4NMYCJTT3EC5C7DHVN2CTBQ Jacob

        How? Intimidating roar. It forces Gyarados out of the active spot. what other evolved pokemon are IN a Gyarados? pretty much none. free take outs all day. I’ve beaten plenty of Gyarados this way.

      • Anonymous

        blissey prime

      • Anonymous

        double gyarados for 60

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XBE4NMYCJTT3EC5C7DHVN2CTBQ Jacob

        Most Gyarados players arent smart enough to double gyarados and.. no one runs blissey prime.

      • Anonymous

        i do and i am

  • Papa_Mash

    The addition of Mightyena would be helpful for the Vilegar match up but, as cpeterik notes above, it probably hurts the SP matchup. I play this deck occasionally but have not used it competitively because what you gain against Vilegar you lose against SPs. (But maybe I didn’t have the right list or play it right).

    To me it seems like your list should include some hand refreshers. If you are concerned about Vilegar (which presumably uses Gengar SF), Looker’s may be good to try to get rid of some of the S/S/Ts you might be piling up. Looker’s is also helpful in an SP matchup to break a Cyrus chain. Seeker is definitely helpful when using Fighting Tag but 4 may be excessive. Also, this decks tries to play from in front and not from behind—so I am not sure about the inclusion of Twins (though always helpful when you can use it).

    I include Uxie LvX in my decklist. It is great for revenge KOs against SPs that use their own Uxie LvX, along with Lucario GL, as a Machamp counter.

    Some constructive (hopefully) criticism concerning the presentation of information in your article as opposed to of the deck itself… In your descriptions of the cards, you miss providing some important information to the reader.

    For instance, when discussing the inclusion of Ruins of Alph (the first sentence of which is perhaps inartfully drafted), you didn’t relate its true importance. I mean, BTS would be sufficient to allow for the use of Poison Structure. However, Ruins of Alph (or a stadium other than BTS), is extremely vital to the deck because the majority of non-SP decks, including Vilegar, will run BTS, and if they use the BTS first, you will never get to use the Poison Structure/Mightyena combo. The inclusion of Ruins of Alph solves this problem. In addition, if they cannot replace your Ruins of Alph you can later replace it with your own BTS, which then will likely be locked in for the remainder of the game (either this must happen or you must get your BTS out first, if you want to successfully use the 4 Seekers in your list to heal a damaged Machamp as you discuss; otherwise, a Vilegar deck that uses a Gengar Prime easily could hurl those Pokemon into the Lost Zone).

    Another example would be the description of Skuntank G (which you refer to as “Stuntank”). Yes, allowing for the use of the Cold Feet Pokebody is the main reason Skuntank G is in the deck; however, there are several uses that this card has that you could pass on to the reader. One is that it increases the damage output of the deck which can help against higher HP Stage 2 Pokemon but, more importantly, is that if timed properly it can KO a Vilegar SF without your opponent being able to use Feinting Spell. In an article about a decklist structured with Vilegar (again, presumably running Gengar SF) in mind, it seems this use would be important to point out.

    Just a few thoughts to help you when writing another article…keep up the good work.

    • Anonymous

      If this is the guy I played at Roseville CCs, I remember I took my first prize off a badly-timed Poison Structure.

      • Papa_Mash

        Not me…not certain where Roseville is…California?… but I live in TX….also, I indicated in my post that I never played this deck competitively…. How was it badly timed…might be good point to relate to others?

      • Anonymous

        yeah, roseville is near sacramento.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dane-Carlson/100000196466246 Dane Carlson

    My friend Julian runs this deck. He used to run Umbreon, and that was good, but his MightyChamp is much better. It’s cool to see someone elso found this out too! :)

  • Anonymous

    Hey, it’s Theo from the Roseville tourney. The one playing Gyarados. The one down 4 prizes and came back. Won by the SSU flip. Took second place. That’s you, right? Well, you said you’d post this, so I bet you did. Sorry if I’ve got the wrong guy.

    • Anonymous

      That would be me. Did you beat Jason?

      • Anonymous

        no, I lost in top 2. And you probably aren’t asking about round 4, I told u i got donked.

  • Anonymous

    seems interesting but umbreon with machamp is better though

  • Anonymous

    -1 Ruin of Alph
    +1 Mightyena LA

    Playing 2-3 is the best so if you are playing against SP you dont have 4 extra cardsa with no use

    • Anonymous

      2-3 is insane. even the ruins of alph could help to psn mightyena