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  • Anonymous

    110 is the magic number to hit on sp. You have to add plus powers, black belt, or crobats. twins and black belt are especially useful as you will be behind on prizes until your opponent runs out of options for dealing with 100 + damage a turn. disruption is also key, so judge, looker’s investigation, and cyrus’s initiative even to make sure your opponent doesn’t have power spray or poke turns. Interviewer’s question is NOT playable if you have less than 16 energy in your deck (wasting a supporter to draw one energy is just stupid). Try a shaymin hgss and lvl x land form, both to move energy quickly and give lefeon a chance to live through a single attack. I like the idea of this deck a lot. I hope you can get it to surprise some people with an annoying win.

    • Anonymous

      PlusPowers, Black Belt, or Crobats are all good ideas. I put the Expert Belt in to hit the 110-120 range. Remember too that even though the 100 damage might not OHKO, they will still be either Burned or Poisoned. The Poison will KO in between turns and a tails on Burn will do the same. I’m not a mathematician, but my practical experience with Interviewer’s Questions in this deck has proved to me that it is more often useful than not.

      • Anonymous

        hehehe… my wife is a mathematician and she plays interviewer’s question in her meganium deck (along with 17 energy).

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Bae/583235222 Peter Bae

    why no skuntank g….. if you use a Crobat G or two, you can easily have a Crobat G active to use Skuntank G to poison your opponent’s pokemon (namely Gengar SF if its still seeing play in your area), than use Roserade to drop another form of condition, retreat Croabt G or poke turn it, than hit for 100+10 for poison to avoid Fainting spell

    • http://twitter.com/andhersonvs andherson v silva

      Just with the rainbow+roserade combo you can hit 110, so i don’t think skuntank is needed. In my deck i use 2 energy exchanger too, to most ever keep rainbow in hand. I don’t like to use Magmortar too, my pokemon list are like that:
      3-3 Roserade UL
      4-3 Leafeon UD
      1 Umbreon UD
      1 Espeon Prime
      2 Uxie LA
      1 Azelf LA
      2 Unown Q

      * Sorry for my english :(

    • Anonymous

      well skunktank would pioson yourself too. and you need your stadium in play.

    • Anonymous

      This is a very good idea that’s well worth testing. Drop the 4-4 Magmortar for 4 Crobat G, 3 Skuntank G and 1 Unown Q. Drop the 5 Fire Energy for maybe 3 Miasma Valley and 2 Psychic Energy. The only problem I see are is being able to draw into Stadiums, or having them discarded by your opponent.

  • http://twitter.com/GoodLuckJordan Jordan Baker

    definitely needs 4 seeker and BTS to spam Magmortar. SSU would help too.

    • Anonymous

      I really hummed and hawed about BTS. On the one hand it lets you reuse the Magmortar instantly after a Seeker, on the other hand, it may just end up helping out your opponent even more. One thing about having a 4-4 line of Magmortars is that you can often have a Magmar and a Magmortar on the Bench. You Seeker the Magmortar and then play it back down on the already benched Magmar.

  • Anonymous

    A player at my league runs a variant of this deck. He ran it with Miasma Valley. As it is, this deck would DIE to dawn stadium+any bulky water or grass type. Since you have no bodies of your own, why not try a 1-1 DGX tech? That way you can ignore “perfect metal” entirely.

    • Anonymous

      Great suggestion. TS-2 Devoluter might help against those decks also.

  • Anonymous

    There are lots of natural choices here, however this one is way too poke-power dependent. I would try going all grass and integrating a Volbeat/Illumise line (they have no weakness BTW). Attack with Firefly light, 30+burn+confused for GCC, from Volbeat, followed by miasma wind and that should take out most of them and it breaks the reliance on poke-powers. Plus the Illumissle + black belt delivers 70 to the bench, for just G which is cheaper than Magmortar’s bench strike, Fire Arrow, at FC. Naive thinking, I’m sure, but that’s my first strategy idea for the forum.

    • Anonymous

      Interesting idea. There are definite advantages to cutting out one type of Energy. In addition, “Firefly Light” allows you to Burn and Confuse without using a Poke-Power, which is good. The disadvantage is the opponent can often Switch/Evolve/Poke-turn/Retreat/Warp Energy to get out of the conditions before Leafeon can attack. A couple of things I do like about Magmortar though are that it has 110 hp, and is not weak to fire. I think you meant Volbeat/Illumise have no resistance – they are still weak to Fire.

      • Anonymous

        I like those things about Magmortar too. Maybe I got it the other way around, I think Lefeon would work as good support for a Volbeat-Illumise centered deck, if the Volbeats start to crumble. Then drop in Skunktank G, for additional backup. It won’t win a tournament, but its not an expensive deck to make and might present some competition.

    • Anonymous

      Interesting idea. There are definite advantages to cutting out one type of Energy. In addition, “Firefly Light” allows you to Burn and Confuse without using a Poke-Power, which is good. The disadvantage is the opponent can often Switch/Evolve/Poke-turn/Retreat/Warp Energy to get out of the conditions before Leafeon can attack. A couple of things I do like about Magmortar though are that it has 110 hp, and is not weak to fire. I think you meant Volbeat/Illumise have no resistance – they are still weak to Fire.

    • Anonymous

      Sorry but if you read the Black Belt text, it clearly states it only increases damage to the opponent’s active Pokemon. So it does not increase damage done to a benched Pokemon (this is also true of Expert Belt and PlusPower)

  • http://twitter.com/soujiroelric Carlos Vergara

    I’m trying to build this deck and I gotta say I like it so far, since it’s versatile and fast. I was thinking that maybe Umbreon UD would be a good tech against Steelix (and a much safer bet than Magmortar). A belted Umbreon would do wonders, and Steelix can’t do anything.

    Adding Espeon and Umbreon MD can make the Leafeons more lasting.

    Is it a must that I get 4-4 Magmortar? I’m actually running 2-2, and maybe it’s not that neccesary.

    I have a Unown Q included in the deck, maybe I should take it out?

    And one last thing: What if SV gets rotated next season? This deck would also lose all potential, which is not good at all.

    That’s it. Thank you for the article, really interesting!

    • Anonymous

      Thanks Carlos. Here are my thoughts. I prefer 4 Leafeons to maximize my chances of getting one early. Umbreon is a great tech in many decks and it might work well just throwing one in here and using the Rainbow Energy to power its attack. I’m going to try that. I use Magmortar for my main way to add the Special Conditions so I like the 4-4 line here as well. Unown Q is great for free retreat but lousy if you get him as your lone starter – that’s really personal preference and play style. As for rotation – almost anything is possible, although the most probable scenario is 4 sets get rotated out – meaning RR on.

  • http://twitter.com/noxster noxster

    Ran this deck with Hypno, Roserade (dropping rainbow energy) and houndoom prime. Its fun but lacks the HP to keep it afloat!

  • Anonymous

    Leafeon X? No?

    it would help get set up quicker. you could energy forcing to leafeon and manually attach rainbow to roserade.

    • Anonymous

      Good idea. I’m not sure how often you would need to use Energy Forcing. Definitely worth testing out though.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001734489773 Dakota Streck

    Your list seems pretty solid, but I would still take out the Pro Elm’s for two more Bebe’s and perhaps a Communication. Despite your reasoning, that seems like the better play.

    On another note, great article, it’s always refreshing to hear about these types of decks.

  • Derek Coontz

    Very interesting. I’ve been trying to come up with a good Leafeon deck for ages.

  • Anonymous

    i dont know how well umbreon would work against steelix seeing how they could just ko you with an onix due to ur x2 weakness… is the actual ruling on rainbow energy attachments to roserade that you get both effects? thats awesome!

    • Anonymous

      Yes, the ruling is that it counts as every type of Energy, so even though it only counts as 1 Energy, it is still a Psychic Energy Card and a Grass Energy Card at the same time.

  • Anonymous

    a leafeon X would help drop energy on roserade, and you could still have your attachment for the turn

  • http://twitter.com/inatspong Curtis

    I’d say add some Defenders. Because its not classified as a tool, an Leafeon has low HP, Defender can compliment the Belt and help it to live in the event that your opponent can attack, needing to deal up to 130 damage to OHKO Lefeon.

  • Anonymous

    I decided to run this deck as a test, and it turned out to do incredibly well against both Vilegar and Jumpluff! My only change was instead of 2 Professor Oak’s Visit, I put in 2 Emcee’s Chatter. It just helped a lot more with the draw I felt. It was a 50/50 for a 3 card draw, so I was into it.

    The Steelix deck I played actually was the polar opposite of my deck, but I beat it 3 out of 5 (perhaps it was luck of the draw). I just know that this deck turned out to be a great thing to do and was really cheap to run. I made it my primary deck focus and have already planned what to do when the Magmortar line goes away after the shift! If you have questions about that, let me know!

    • Anonymous

      Glad to read you have had some success with the idea.

  • apb58

    if you tech stuntank g and crobat, you might as well try seviper from COL