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  • Lamar

    I like how in LockChamp (as well as any deck with Machamp Prime) you don’t really need Warp Energy or Unown Q as long as you have a Fighting Energy to put on the Active. Although I think I would still have Q in my list!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Bae/583235222 Peter Bae

      Lock Champ does have the Unown Q in the list XD. Altho it really isn’t necessary, free retreat is awlays nice

  • Anonymous

    I just have to say: The reason why VileGar doesn’t run Judge is not because it can shuffle away Trainers. In fact, just because I’ve Poltergeisted a nine-card hand for only thirty damage so many times, I’d run Judge for the sheer disruption. As it goes, your deck relies on two separate stage 2′s hitting the field, and without Claydol (or Shadow Command or anything similar), Judge ends up hurting you more than it hurts your opponent. >.>

    For the same reason I run a handful of trainers in VileGar, I think you should definitely run trainers in LockChamp. Namely, Rare Candy and Pokemon Communication.

    Speaking of VileGar, adding a little bit on how to counter VileGar might’ve been a good idea. VileGar is the biggest reason nowadays people don’t run Machamp, especially Machamp Donk. Trainerlock hurts, but Poltergeist plus a psychic weakness hurts more.

    And lastly, I’d like to see an article about Machamp Lock. My friend ran into a trainerlocking Machamp at Cities and I’ve honestly never heard of anyone trying that before. Seeing a little more info on it would be nice. =)

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Bae/583235222 Peter Bae

      I mentioned how Judge was a bad idea for VileGar because of the trainer issue XD. Thanks for your suggestion, ill be tallying it up until Sunday night than start writing my article monday depending on which deck wins. I didnt get in to too much detail for the decks like Techs and such because this was just an overview of the deck so we can easily get started on Part 2 :).
      P.S. I’ll end up doing it up to part 4, talking about all 3 types of deck I mentioned and maybe GenChamp but I hate that deck so maybe not

  • Travis

    This is a great article. I’ve never thought of LockChamp, of MespriChamp, those are great ideas. Also, why not mention the undeniable synergy Machamp now has with Donphan? Or mention Unown R in the DonkChamp Deck? Anyway, thanks for the Machamp article!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Bae/583235222 Peter Bae

      This is going to be a 2~4 parter article where I’ll be doing in depth analysis of each deck in different parts. I just wanted to give you a basic Deck example, than go from there in to indepth analysis. Talking about Techs, Match-Ups, how to play, why the cards were chosen etc. I never liked Donphan/Machamp. Donphan can increase Machamp’s damage by like 50, but machamp will hit for 120 easily anyways and that is enough to OHKO anyhting in the format so it’s not really a big deal. Putting a 2-2, 3-3, or 4-4 line of Donphan and putting 3-2-3, or 4-2-4 machamp is just too slow for me to handle. I’d rather do a thick machamp like 4-3-4, and start attacking with SF for easier prizes while disrupting with Pixies etc.

      • Travis

        Alright, that’s understandable. But Donphan really helps your Charizard matchup, lemme tell you lol. I like pretty much any Machamp Varient, but the last thing I want to see around are more lock decks. I’d say analyze the DonkChamp

  • Anonymous

    One place I definitely disagree with you on is using Machoke from SF. I run Machoke TM simply because it has 10 more HP requiring my opponent to drop a Crobat if they want to KO it with Dragon Rush. I know the weakness on the TM Machoke is a lot worse, but anything that would kill Machoke thanks to weakness would also kill the SF Machoke.

    Anyway, excellent article. I currently run a Donphan-Machamp deck that does well when I don’t have setup issues. The biggest problem ends up being Gyarados which is so prevalent in the meta right now. That said, thanks to Fighting Tag+ Seeker I played a pretty good Gyarados player in my area down to the last prize.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Bae/583235222 Peter Bae

      uh… the editor did that XD I should have told him i was using TM XD since I do use TM

      • Anonymous

        Oh thank goodness. :)

      • http://www.adamcap.com/ Adam Capriola

        I’ll edit it for you, are just the Machokes TM? And Machops still SF?

        and good article btw :x

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Bae/583235222 Peter Bae

        ys Machops SF and Machoke is TM

  • Anonymous

    I think another potential combo for machamp is with Umbreon UD. It works well against vilegar and sp if built properly. Biggest problem for machamp these days I think is Gyarados though.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Bae/583235222 Peter Bae

      No,… Machamp has a pretty even match up with Gyarados. Sure Gyarados has -20 resistance, but even iwth that Machamp Prime hits just as much as Gdos does and has a higher HP. Machamp also has a better healing capability because of the built in switch system.

      • Anonymous

        Yeah… But Gyarados has room for Mesprit.. And fighting tag hates power lock. It’s not as bad as it was, but its still a hard match

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Bae/583235222 Peter Bae

        Well ya.. I guessi ts been easier with me since I do run Machamp MEsprit. When I play against Gdos, it jsut ends up being who drops the first mesprit XD

      • Anonymous

        i played dos at all my cities, went 2-0 vs. Machamp, and all of them were close games, so I don’t know where to rate it, probably at 60-40 dos.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Bae/583235222 Peter Bae

        if all of the mwere close game, shouldnt it be 50/50

    • Anonymous

      someone played MightyChamp and got 5th place at a cities I went to.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_F7YXAROYNDX3IH47DUTCDQMDOE Ryan B

    Great article

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peter-Bae/583235222 Peter Bae

      thank you :D

  • mewuk85

    Your best bet is to wait and run it with Pokemon catcher:)