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  • Anonymous

    First and foremost, high quality article man. You didn’t just present your deck list, you also explained your strategy and discussed match-ups. Well done.

    I am definitely on the bandwagon in terms of Reshiram decks. They have Tier 1 stamped all over them, hands down. That’s why I like seeing/reading as many decklists and articles on them as I can. I guess Pokemon TCG has come full circle as Reshiram (like the fire-breathing Charizard before him) is the must-have card of this era. A few questions/comments on your build:

    - Your Pokemon line is solid, regardless of what techs you choose to use in the future. It’s a clean lineup that doesn’t mess around. Good to see.

    - You’re one of the first people I’ve seen who doesn’t run PONT or Juniper in their Reshiram deck build: and I actually think you’re on to something. I only run 1 PONT, and that’s it (I cringed every time I had to discard stuff with Juniper). Anyone who has done extensive testing will realize how this deck sets itself up. If you take care to set up your Ninetails diligently, you will soon have a large handsize and plenty of options. Also, having Cleffa as backup is key. It just all works out; Here’s hoping more people will realize this soon. However, I do believe at least 1 PONT is needed simply to prevent you from decking out during post-mid to late game. It’s crucial in that situation. People may argue this viewpoint, but keep doing what you’re doing with regards to the deck.
    - I can’t lie: I strongly prefer ReshiBoar. I have respect for your build, but I just think that Emboar is a hero in Reshiram-based decks. I’m sure both Typholsion and Emboar have their good/bad points and both will probably be successful. Is there something about Emboar that you don’t like?Questions:- How do you find your handsize from mid-late game? Is it blocked with stuff you don’t need? I’m finding with my build that I have a large hand full of extra collectors and stuff I don’t need at that point. But it’s not really a bad thing because that means you have what you need and your giving yourself options, plus fodder for Junk Arm. Hard to complain about having a large hand in this game, so it’s a good sort of complaint. - Have you considered using Burned Tower at all? It’s an idea that has been tossed around the forums and other decklists by people, but I don’t think it’s gotten its full dues. I run it, and it’s really cool. I believe it gives you that extra out in times of need, and helps build the “energy recycle system” as I call it, with cards such as energy retrieval, junk arm, etc. I’ll usually joke with my friend and say “I’m flipping to see if I can use Roast Reveal” when using Burned Tower, because it essentially gives you a “free” roast reveal. People will argue that it helps your opponent too much, but I believe it’s worth the play in this deck.

    - Have you tried any water techs, such as Kingdra Prime or Samurott? I haven’t tested the latter, but would love to with the Emboar build. A 1-1 Kingdra Prime is neat, because it is a guaranteed pluspower every turn, on top of the other pluspowers you could run. However, stage 2 techs are indeed clunky, and require the right conditions to set up. You don’t want to get greedy and rare candy an early game Horsea to Kingdra, when your Emboar/Typhlosion isn’t set up.

    Thanks for the article.

    • Anonymous

      Thanks for the comment!

      Recently (since I put this in for review), I have added one Professor Oak’s New Theory. I like it late game.

      I completely respect the Emboar argument. It could be better than Typhlosion, but I just wanted to get this type of Typhlosion Prime list out there. There is not anything that I do not like about Emboar. I have a list with him also. To be honest, I am really enjoying playing ReshiBoar with a 1-0-1 Typhlosion Prime tech in it. I have found that after you set up, that one Typhlosion Prime really helps with consistency and makes you less vulnerable to Judge.

      My hand size mid to late game can get pretty big. However, because I have a low Supporter count, the only card that cloggs my hand is Pokemon Collector. This is often just fine though because I can use it as Junk Arm fodder. I have thought about only running three Collector and two Potion to make run for two Pokemon Reversal though. I think that could be really useful in the late game, once decks have their high HP tanks in the active spot. However, this build really allows you to play with a limited hand. In the few games where I ran out of stuff in my hand in the late game, it did not really hurt too much. The ability to pull from the discard with nothing in your hand has been invaluable.

      I have tried Burned Tower. I have mixed feelings. Most of the time it just feels like a wasted card slot. I understand the ability to use Roast Reveal, but I often have at least one Fire Energy in my hand anyway. I am in the camp that it helps you opponent too much, especially in the ReshiBoar match up. ReshiBoar can really be messed up if the fail to get an Energy Retrieval or Fisherman for a turn in the late game. I would prefer to not give them the extra out also. However, if for whatever reason Legends see more play with Indigo Plateau, I might add a copy to counter that (unlikely though).

      I have tried it with a couple water techs. I have not, however, tried it with Kindra Prime. It is an interesting idea and I should check it out. It  would seem to me that using Ampharos Prime would be a better idea though. First, Ampharos Prime could help to counter weakness. Second, the decks that I need the multiple PlusPower drops attack multiple energy to their Pokemon, so Ampharos would be like a double or triple PlusPower drop.

      I have tried it with Samurott. I liked it, but I’m not sure if it is the way to go. Samurott really helps ease the Donhpan match up. It can OHKO Donphan Prime and provide a wall. Same goes for the Reshiram match up (either ReshiBoar or ReshiPhlosion). Currently, I like the faster and consistent build that just focuses on teh Toolbox, but I might change my mind and add in a couple techs.

       

      • Anonymous

        Cool man.

        A 1-1 Typhlosion is something that is clearly amazing in a ReshiBoar build, but I wonder how consistently/often it can ALL get setup. I mean, having a fully loaded Reshiram, a Stage 1 (Ninetails), Stage 2 (Emboar), AND another Stage 2 (Typhlosion) is ambitious (although amazing!). I guess it’s similiar to having a Stage 2 tech (Kingdra, Samurott) like I mentioned earlier but if you go 1-1 Typhlsion, it’s hard to tech in anything else. The question remains; how often am I going to get it all out?!

        I find a lot of people talk techs as if they just fall onto the bench off top decks. It really takes a lot of work and a consistent build to pull all this stuff off. I may be a noob in pokemon, perhaps even naive, but it seems that having an ideal, fast “all-inclusive” setup only happens once in a blue moon.

        I respect and understand your viewpoints on Burned Tower, but I still have to stand by it, haha. I know it CAN help your opponent, but I think its pro’s outweigh it’s cons. In my ReshiBoar build, after discarding 2 fire energy, I often will have an Energy Retrieval, Junk Arm, etc. in hand, which is perfect for next turn(s), right? However, I find I’m always thinking ahead 2-3 turns, and I realize how important draw power is with Roast Reveal. I will run out of resources in a hurry if I don’t Roast Reveal on a regular basis. Therefore, if I use Energy Retrieval to get 2 fire back on my Reshiram the following turn, I find I won’t have a fire energy to use for Roast Reveal. As such, Burned Tower gives me a shot at Roast Revealing. I find it leads to a consistent stream of not just energy, but other resources in my deck. Just my thoughts. What do you think?

        Please note that I’m not trying to persuade/change your viewpoints at all. I’m honestly just trying to stimulate constructive discussion, because I’m very passionate about this format, and especially this type of deck- and I want to help refine it as much as possible.

        P.S- One thing you should know about me is that I live in a place in the world where there is no Pokemon TCG whatsoever. I’m not joking, there is nothing. Thus, I’ve never attended a “Battle Roads” or a “Nationals” or any other sort of formal tournament, other than those across my kitchen table with friends. Every thing I’ve learned, from the card acronyms to the deck types, has been off SixPrizes. So I don’t know the in’s and out’s of every matchup. Perhaps, I don’t NEED the ability to, for example, use Blue Flare on Reshiram EVERY turn. Perhaps in a real life game, I’ll be using Outrage more than expected. Thus, a deck needs to be tailored around that concept. I’m just a HUGE fan of Pokemon TCG, and keeping up with it is a massive hobby of mine. I play a lot of solitaire games and I have high hopes for this Online TCG Pokemon is setting up in the near future. Maybe one day I can play an actual match!

      • Anonymous

        First, I have really enjoyed your comments.

        You are absolutely correct, teching in any Stage 2 Pokemon line is very inconsistent. In the case of a 1-0-1 Typhlosion Prime line, you clearly want to get Reshiram active with Emboar on the bench first. Then quickly get to Ninetales. That is not too hard to do. Then only in the late game does it help to get that Typhlosion. In the late game it can help when your Energy Retrievals and Fishermen are running out.

        You are also correct that people talk about their techs like they are guaranteed to get out. People are also still talking about 1-1 lines of things or single copies of Pokemon as techs. You can thank the stinking SP era for teaching players to think like that. We are coming out of a remarkable ToolBox format. There was virtually a SP Pokemon to counter everything and every type out there. What was even more crazy, was that they were all basics to be set up in one turn. Then you also had Azelf, guaranteeing that you have access to EVERY card in your deck at any given moment in the game. That is ridiculous. It will take a while before the majority of players start to realized that consistency and speed are extremely important (even more important than having a tech for stuff) and that techs are not easy to get out any more.

        I think the thing about Burned Tower is that it is great for ReshiBoar decks and not so much for ReshiPhlosion decks. Burned Tower can really open up resources and space in a ReshiBoar deck (less energy, less Trainers to get those energy back, etc), just like you said. ReshiPhlosion decks have a built in ability to get those energy back into play. I really think that it depends on the partner choice for Reshiram and personal playstyle. If it works for you, absolutely go for it. :)

        Glad that you are a fan where you are. You never know, maybe you and your friends are the ones to bring Pokemon to that part of the world. It could happen.

  • Anonymous

    The biggest part of Reshiphlosion is the price. As you said, the 2-3 less emboars is $20+ you save. A RDL less is $25. That, and it’s a lot simpler with one type of energy. This, and Blastoise/Floatzel, are the two decks I would suggest for new players who want a meta-viable deck.

    • apb58

       I agree Price can be a BIG factor when you’re just getting into the competitive format.

      The thing about Typhlosion is that, funny enough, I feel it’s less straight forward and takes a little more thought and planning to play than Reshiboar; it’s not as cut and dry straightforward.
      This is both a good and bad thing; it introduces players to some of the strategy and nuances of the game, but it’s going to be harder to be successful with the deck until you know how to play it really well.
      Probably will help out in the long run though!

      • Anonymous

        I absolutely agree that price is big when you are just starting out. You don’t even know if you will like it, why spend hundreds on the “best” stuff.

        Typhlosion is more complicated than Emboar based Reshiram decks.

  • Anonymous

    Great article!!!
    Everything was done really good.Thank you, too many people giving typlosion a bad name, just cause of emboar. Defenders are great this format. The serperior is also a interesting tech. And yes reshilosion is a cheaper deck to make, with all the emboar hype and all the typhlosion hate, its a lot more easier to make, and still plays great against other decks with pricey cards in them.

  • Anonymous

    One thing I liked about this article is that you gave a very detailed description of the strategy. But the thing I liked  more than anything else is you KNOW what you’re talking about. Some people may play a few games with a deck and say it has potential, but I can tell that you’ve tested matchups and you’re not just saying the decks good because you like it. One reason I know that is because of the whole Defender idea. It makes a whole lot of sense and helps a lot, but I personally have never thought of it and neither have I seen people talking about it much.
    Awesome article man! Keep up the great work. =)

    • Anonymous

      thanks :)

  • Anonymous

    I play a reshilosion deck, and the hand size is fine..emboar and typhlosion, both use ninetails, so its a tie unless emboar uses shuckle. Burned tower….its not that great, when you can use energy retrieval and get 2 energys for 1 card and junk arm can reuse the energy retrieval.

  • Anonymous

    I’m a Reshiboar player. I played against a Typhlosion build the other day and it was pretty close. When he played Defender, I just didn’t attack. He kept using junk arm to get back Plus Power, and Defender, which helped him somewhat. My Plus powers were pretty useless, because he had damage on all of his Pokemon from Typhlosion’s power. The only thing I don’t like is ninetales, but that’s my opinion.

    The Blastoise matchup is right. It’s very hard to win, because they can just snipe your bench. Plus, they hit for weakness. Magnaboar, is pretty tough too. I know you discard 1 of their energy’s with Typlosio. I think Reshiboar has a better matchup, if they tech the 150 Emboar in there.

    I really like the article, because you know exactly what you’re talking about. Good job. :)

    • Anonymous

      What do you run instead of Ninetales.

      For me personally, if my opponent does not attack when I play down a Defender that is fine. It gives me more time to get to a PlusPower, Junk Arm, or another Defender. That way I can be the first to take a Prize in that exchange.

      Just how I play it out though.

      • Anonymous

        I draw with 3-4 Junipers and 2 PONT’s. My goal is to get out Emboar ability out first, rather than getting out something that draws cards. Cleffa also helps out as well.

        That’s exactly what happens when I don’t attack. Most of the time though if they do get a plus power, I just get Reshiram back because I usually have a Rescue energy on it. I’m usually content with sitting through defenders though. They’re only delaying the inevitable.

      • Anonymous

        Good ideas. I’m going to try those out.

        Thanks :)

      • Anonymous

        If you do try out junipers, make sure you discard some energies with it, so you can use Typhlosion’s power.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MTJVSJ6AND6LMTLHMTV5S7PLQA Zacquery Reveche

    I ran this deck as well, but no ninetales were needed, waste of bench, and engineer;s adjustments would be a better sub, i went 6-0 at battleroads, because adding in a 2-2 line of ursaring prime is like 2 more reshirams and a counter against Zoroark techs, remember they copy attacks, not pokebodies, i also ran 4 junipers, which made the deck extremly fast, no defenders, potions, or revives needed. And since you have 3 DCE, that ursaring tech wouldnt be a bad idea, so good luck :D

    • Anonymous

      I like the Ursaring Prime idea. I will have to try it out.

      The Engineer’s Adjustment idea is interesting too. However, you can only have four of them in your deck. What do you do when you’ve used all of them (i know I use Roast Reveal more than four times a game). Also, that uses your supporter for the turn. So, you cannot combo with things like Judge, Pont, Juniper or even Collector. I will be sure to try it out though.

      Thanks for the suggestions.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MTJVSJ6AND6LMTLHMTV5S7PLQA Zacquery Reveche

    I ran this deck as well, but no ninetales were needed, waste of bench, and engineer;s adjustments would be a better sub, i went 6-0 at battleroads, because adding in a 2-2 line of ursaring prime is like 2 more reshirams and a counter against Zoroark techs, remember they copy attacks, not pokebodies, i also ran 4 junipers, which made the deck extremly fast, no defenders, potions, or revives needed. And since you have 3 DCE, that ursaring tech wouldnt be a bad idea, so good luck :D

  • Anonymous

    typhlosion would be a good card if we didnt already have Emboar. Shuckle really gives Emboar a larger hand than, and thus, the advantage over typhlosion. Also I dont know if someone else has already given this idea but Burned Tower is a winner, mostly when you use Alph Lithograph UD. These cards eliminate typhlosions and thus your healing cards and can decrease your count of fire energy, energy retrieval, and even junk arm. Reversal and Circulator also beat anything that relies too heavily on defenders, so those would be useful here as well. Your article has changed my way of thinking actually. I hadn’t thought much about typhlosion after i dismissed him upon comparison to Emboar, but you’ve justified its use because it’s $50 cheaper. Thanks for finding the Pokemon community a poor man’s ReshiBoar!! :) I gave your article a green check mark, keep up the good work.

    • Anonymous

      Thanks.

      I understand the idea behind Alph Litograph and Burned Tower, but I honestly do not think it is needed in ReshiPhlosion. You already have a reliable was of getting the Energy Back out of the Discard. I also do not run and Energy Retrieval. There is especially more downside to playing Burned Tower against ReshiBoar lists than use RDL and MagneBoar lists. Both of those decks run a very tight Lightning Energy count and sending just one or two of them to the discard can be debilitating. Using Burned Tower gives them another way to get out of trouble.

      Shuckle is nice, but it can be inconsistent. You have to have a Seeker, Super Scoop Up, Unown with Return to make it work (or something like Shaymin to move those energy). I know it likely will not happen often, but on the off chance that you do not draw into one of those (or already have one in your hand) you are in serious trouble. Even in ReshiBoar decks, I truly believe that Ninetales is the better play.

      Reversal is a two-sided sword. I really think that Reversal fits better in this Toolbox ReshiPhlosion deck than a ReshiBoar deck. Also, the main point to Defender is making people use more than normal resources to secure a KO. Whether that be utilizing multiple PlusPowers, using Pokemon Reversals, or whatever. Decklists are tight and a good, fast, consistent ReshiBoar list does not have a ton of extra room for a lot of techs. So, forcing them to burn more stuff to get a KO is a big deal.

      As I said, ReshiBoar deserves the hype it is getting. It is going to be Tier 1. It might even be BDIF. However, if ReshiBoar is an A+, a good ReshiPhlosion is at least an A.

      Again, thanks a lot for the positive rating (apparently some people like to down vote just because I chose to write about ReshiPhlosion instead of ReshiBoar). Thanks for the comments. They are very insightful.

      :)

  • Anonymous

    prize rush prize rush prize rush, you don’t care about healing tour pokemanz, healing cards are dead cards with no effect on the board.

    - 2 potion
    + 2 judge

    • Anonymous

      Thanks for the suggestions :)

      I like Judge in here, but I’m not positive that it is optimal.

      The ting to remember is that this is not ReshiBoar. It is more tatical than that. There is more that this deck can do than rush for Prizes. If you want a true Prize rush deck run. Cinccino, Donphan, or Zekrom is Reversals.

      • Anonymous

        At least I think you should replace your 2 Potions by 2 another Defenders.

        Afterburner => Reshiram : 120 hp
        With a Defender, your opponent will have to use 2 plus power with Zekrom / Reshiram / Zoroark to get a Revenge Kill.

        If he can get 2 plus power, he’ll have used a good part of his ressources (2 Plus Power / Junk Arm).
        If he cannot (after a Judge, for example ;D ), you’ll have an advantage at the prizes (Outrage ftw)

      • Anonymous

        I will be sure to try out your suggestions. I think the best suggestion has been to use a couple Judge.

        What I meant earlier is this. You use one Typhlosion to recharge your active Pokemon and then a second one to charge up your bench.

        If you use only Typhlosion to charge up stuff on your bench (which is the best way to do that IMO), it takes three Afterburner to fully charge up Reshiram or Typhlosion Prime. In that case your benched Reshiram would only have 100 hp left or your benched Typhlosion Prime would have 110 hp left. You use Potion on those Pokemon to bring them back out of OHKO territory for Zekrom or Reshiram (without the opponent using PlusPower). That way they have to use resources to to get the OHKO when you promote either one of those to the active spot.

        Again, thanks for the comments and suggestions.

      • Anonymous

        also you can potion then defender. this way your opponents back to using 2 pluspowers to KO,

  • Anonymous

    in my testing done there is only 1 problem with reshiphlosion. you need 2 typhlosions to consistently spam reshirams. this makes it rather difficult(especially early game) to not have reshirams OHKO.

    • Anonymous

      It is difficult to spam Reshirams if you are focusing on Blue Flame. This deck does not need to constantly spam Blue Flame.

      Again, this is not ReshiBoar where you are spamming Blue Flame and then bringing in Emboar 19 or RDL to close the game out.

      Thanks for reading! :)

  • A Z

    Very nice article, but I still feel that Typhlosion is a bad play compared to Emboar simply because of the number of techs and possibilities that not only you have, but the person sitting across the table has to think about when he sees that tepid on your bench.  Does he play the RDL what about Badboar and what can I do to stop it.
    Don’t get me wrong I’m not trying hate on the deck, I actually think it is good say tier 1.25ish (lol) but its not for me (I may play around with the idea a bit thou).  In fact I dont even really think that straight reshiboar is the best play Magneboar or something like that is superior IMO.  Then again I kinda of an off the wall player lol and will probably be trying morerogue then meta this next season cause I think that rogue will actually be better than usual just because of the speed of the game now. 

    *Hope that didnt see like a bash to your deck* :)

    • Anonymous

      Not taken as a bash at all :)

      I never said that his was better than Emboar (I actally said a couple times in the article that .emboar my be better).

      The main question that your opponen withh have to think about id RDL. After turn one or two they will know if you are playing ReshiBoar or MagneBoar (which I find to be a bikt slow and inconsistent durning the set up).

      Thanks for the comment :)

      • A Z

        Yeah I get what you are saying just giving my reasoning behind why i think Magnebor/Reshi is better over all even thou it is a descently fair matchup for this deck.  Its all really theorymon right up till you shuffle the cards anyways is what I like to say and to add to that theorymon vs theorymon is an unfavorable matchup to say the least lol  :) once again nice article I need to do one on a random deck sometime lol I just hate writing so much thou XD