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  • Anonymous

    Nice

    Defender’s also work on decks that hit fast and run low energy like cincinno/zoroark/yanmega/jumpluff because they have low hp to prevent OHKO from 100 attacks, or 120 attacks if they attach more than 1.

    Also its kinda too soon to rate defenders that low, we haven’t really seen a big event where those meta decks  actually top, since this format is more about skills than OP cards (EX: Sabledonk, Luxray, etc.)

  • Anonymous

    Good article
    I run four in my jumpluff yanmega deck since i can get one-shoted easily
    It has really helpd against many decks,except reshiboar but it can still help out against many other decks.

  • Anonymous

    What a lot of people don’t know about the card is it’s recent errata.  Basically, I’ve been trying to work it into my zekrom build as it will also negate 20 damage you do to yourself with your own attack which is amazing in theory.  It allows you to take Donphan head on with Zekrom and will help avoid the ohko from so many other threats in the format, especially if you manage to get 2 on it.

    • Anonymous

      Thats what ive done..with my jumpluff if i fighting a pokemon with high HP
      like steelix i do leaf guard with 2defenders so that any damage done to me next turn would be -70
      and against donchamp it works even better.

      • Anonymous

        I don’t think you understand my point.  What I was saying is that with zekrom, you usually do 40 to yourself.  With defender now, you can attach two, not take any damage from your own attack and also resist a lot of hits next turn from whatever your opponent can throw at you.

        Adding defender to things like leaf guard to further help surviving hits is pretty standard.

      • Anonymous

        With defenders you hurt yourself for 40 like usually and then reduce any damage by 40..
        But you still take the 40 from zekrom which is alright

        Defenders says any damage done to your pokemon by your opponents attack
        meaning you still take 40 from youself

      • Anonymous

        Yes which is why if you read my initial comment, it said there was a recent errata to state that it will affect the attacks in which you hurt yourself.  Read Pokegym’s most recent errata update to see.

      • Anonymous

        make me

      • Anonymous

        checkmate :/

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4PFZCBSYSMTRDCWKPPOH5PPNVY Ash

        dude……….come on now.

        Tamoo is correct so dont be like that. But i don’t believe it prevents Afterburner damage seeing as the errata says “Any damage done to the Pokémon Defender is attached to BY ATTACKS is reduced by 20″

      • Anonymous

        yeah it has to be damage done by attacks. but i can see it useful in zekrom if you can get enough on.

      • Anonymous

        so i was right?..cool lol

      • Anonymous

        No, because you thought that “With defenders you hurt yourself for 40 like usual” for Zekrom’s self-damage. In reality, Defenders reduce Zekrom’s self-damage.

      • Anonymous

        naw that aint me

      • Anonymous

        I_Forgot_The_Ice 23 hours ago in reply to TamooWith defenders you hurt yourself for 40 like usually and then reduce any damage by 40..But you still take the 40 from zekrom which is alrightDefenders says any damage done to your pokemon by your opponents attackmeaning you still take 40 from youselfLike Reply

      • Anonymous

        I copy pasted your comment that I previously quoted. Now there is no denying that the comment which I quoted is in fact yours.

      • Anonymous

        wanna bet?

      • Anonymous

        obviously

      • Anonymous

        you lost

      • Anonymous

        If you are talking about a last-word contest, then yes, I’ve
        lost. However, if you aren’t stupid and you realize that this is an ARGUMENT
        and not a last word contest, then you’ll also realize that you have yet to
        provide any factual evidence, while I have. If you respected yourself at all,
        you wouldn’t reply to this, but I have a sneaking suspicion that you don’t
        respect yourself any more than I respect you, which obviously is very little, so I’ll be anticipating your uneducated short phrase that doesn’t prove anything in a few hours. PLEASE, PROVE me wrong. I’m rooting for you.

      • Anonymous

        best comment ever

      • Anonymous

        Haha dude it’s a card game. Calm down.

      • Anonymous

        Thank u..thats what ive been trying to say..lol

      • Adam Bigott

        I just wanted to repley to this because of how narrow the text box is getting. Also defender errata = cool

      • Anonymous

        …..Its a inside joke
        sooo yeah..

      • Dave W

        Best counter-argument on 6P EVER.

      • Anonymous

        lmao thank’s

      • Anonymous

        glad my article proved to be such a conversation starter… haha

      • Dave W

        Best counter-argument on 6P EVER.

      • Anonymous

        It’s an errata now? Can I use my Base Set Defenders then??

      • http://jordanbakersays.tumblr.com/ JordanBaker

        you can, you just have to provide an updated wording for reference

  • Anonymous

    This card is absolutely key in a format where you have 130 HP Pokemon doing 130 damage (w/PP) to each other.

    Standard of comments in CotD is going rapidly downhill.

    • Anonymous

      Didn’t it start on the Gigigear CotD?

      • Anonymous

        I blame it all on the review that gave Liligant 1/5.

        I have no sympathy for CotD now.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with the low rating, especially for when we get Pokemon Catcher in the format.

  • Anonymous

    Defender is surprisingly underrated, and I think it’s a great card that might prove as useful if not more useful than Pluspower.

    • Anonymous

      What makes you think that? justwonderin

      • Anonymous

        Regarding it being underrated, I’ve played a deck that used it to massive advantage.

        Regarding it potentially being just as good, it takes 2 Pluspowers to undo 1 Defender.

      • Anonymous

        oh okay. which deck?

    • Anonymous

      defender is in because PP is in. if it wasnt for that we wouldnt need defender.

  • Dave W

    This card would be so much better if you could play it on your opponent’s turn like Power Spray.

  • Anonymous

    I use this as a one-off in Reshiboar (with 3 pluspowers and 4 junkarms).

    A defender midgame is absolutely amazing vs basically any deck. The only things that you should watch out for are samurott decks, which continue to hit for 140 with only 1 water attached (and a dce).

    With reshiboar, it not only lets reshiram survive, but also helps the turn per turn KO’s. I also run 1 revive, which is okay as well.

    It (defender) can be paired with Rayquaza Deoxys legend with Indigo Plateau to avoid the KO from Bouffalant… and if you draw a dud defender early on, it can easily be attached to a cleffa and then junk armed when you need it.

    I think decks without junk arm don’t need it though. I would give it a 2/5; because of situational use; but 3/5 in reshiboar as a one-off.

    • Anonymous

      technically they would hit 160 with 1 water. its base is 70 for CCC but then gets +10 for each water. ya i trying to find room in my reshiboar to fit it in. though i dont really like the one of idea i think 2 of would be better. its amazing in mirrow.

  • Anonymous

    something like samurott/donphan prime deck with 4 defenders and 4 junk arms in it would be tough to get through, and donphan counters samurotts weakness too which is nice… i tested this and found its easy to get samurott with rescue energy and DCE with average of 3 defenders to absorb up to 220 damage and just rescue the line all back if they even could do that much… unless against lightning then set up donphan instead (the same amount of defense with its resistance)